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lori and fenton welcome everyone to the

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really jam-packed but i have some really

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and my first guest for just a few

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minutes to help us uh get into the

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holiday spirit because he's doing

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something wonderful and i want him to

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tom danheiser from coast to coast radio

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george nori's right hand guy he's the

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guy you see at all the conferences who's

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takes him around and makes sure he gets

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where he's got to go and what he's got

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to do how you doing tom

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ho ho ho are we in the spirit yet

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i'm trying to be i really am

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i took a few minutes from producing

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on thank you for having me on thanks for

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well not a whole lot is going on but i

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do believe that you guys are running

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some kind of fundraiser or holiday

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through coast to coast that you're

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tonight on the show

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holiday magic coast style it is a cd

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our guests on the show that

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sale of this to the veterans throughout

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the united states the veterans charities

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the hospitals and so forth and so it's a

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amazing idea now i'm sure you came up

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i'm just gonna put big quotes around

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says tom came up with this idea tell us

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about who's on the uh cd or the dvd or

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musical talents and we have lionel

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fanthorp who's of course our great

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storyteller we call him the greatest

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storyteller ever born joshua p warren we

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if you can believe it even

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pat boone the very famous pat boone uh

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let us use a song on this and billy

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gibbons of zz top of the rock band so

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oh that's so amazing i just i can't

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now how do people get that they just go

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what could we do to help somebody to

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worthwhile good project i'm very

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passionate about the vets of this

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country i mean you know without those

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guys we wouldn't be able to do this what

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everybody take a minute go to amazon.com

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coast-to-coastam.com and just click on

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on the picture of the holiday magic

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coast style cd and just check it out

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cool i'm really excited about this i had

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no idea what it was so this is the first

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excited i'm going to run over there and

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get one right away and do we know who

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the vets are or what organizations or

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the veterans that are getting this is

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of this uh proceeds that's what we're

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like several months trying to figure out

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so many worthwhile veterans charities

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as many as we can across the u.s so what

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sale till approximately january 10 just

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no more it's done and it's a collector's

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amazon until then and then we're going

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to take and we're going to we're going

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veteran's hospital but

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the people in the country and they get

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at danian's group and i've been thinking

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about taking the training to do it and

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he's offering one i think next summer

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i'll be able to do that it's just you

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could barely breathe these days but i

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back and douglas dietrich is even

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thinking about doing it too wouldn't

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well i'll tell you speaking of daniel

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you know that this is a collection of

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traditional christmas songs and poems

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spectacular poem called a soldier's

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night before christmas

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it's really something and the other

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it's called the christmas puppy

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if you if you're human you will cry oh

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my gosh oh i can't wait to get it oh i'm

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so excited okay everyone you've got to

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go to coast to coast and pick up a copy

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of this cd and thomas this is a success

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this year would you do it again next

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success because you know what anything

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questions and i'll let you go because i

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now i can hear it in the background

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what i was going to ask you was are you

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planning on going with george down to

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the del rio borderlands ufo festival

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i am i am going to go um i i don't know

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what to expect we were talking about

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this the other night and this is i guess

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this is a border town so we need to do

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great festival so we're looking forward

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folks and doing a meet and greet and so

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forth wonderful i'll be down there as

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sure yet but it looks very promising and

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i will be doing live broadcasting for

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inception radio network so i'm going to

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beg you live on air if you and uh george

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would stop by the booth or just you i

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don't i'm fine with that too

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we're gonna talk about ufos and

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other worldly planets and and life

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outside earth which we

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most all know there is i mean i don't

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know this but on

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11 1 2014 just a little over a month ago

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i saw my first

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real spacecraft one that i actually knew

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was a flying saucer spacecraft it

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actually was a triangle

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and it was my first one ever and you

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know i've been doing this for a very

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long time whether you knew it or not but

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i have been

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and uh i think i had a signing once in

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2011

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but

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this was absolutely for real and i had a

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witness with me that saw it as well so

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i've actually seen my first ufo so i'm

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what was that

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isn't it doesn't it just thrill you

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yeah have you ever seen one

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well i will tell you um

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we had we have the unique experience of

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going on a rooftop with um one of our

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guests his name is ed grimsley and he

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he carries these uh night vision goggles

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and ed's deal is he looks up in the sky

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and

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it's amazing what you see now ed claims

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that what you see are warring ufo ships

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at war so we went up uh for the first

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time and we looked through these

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i gotta tell you lori ann i i couldn't

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believe what i saw i mean

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just as he described there

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you know and i i can't tell you it

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looked like a flying saucer i can't say

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there was a you know a man in it but

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what i can tell you is there were these

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objects

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moving in a zigzag pattern

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and they did look like they were kind of

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warring against each other almost like a

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like a pac-man effect you know how the

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pac-man goes and then goes down

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and it was the most amazing thing and i

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highly recommend anybody that can get a

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hold of goggles or rent them or use them

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or borrow them or whatever they do to

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look up in the night skies and and it's

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just amazing what you see with those

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things so

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my short answer is no i can't

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emphatically tell you i've seen a ufo

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but i do believe and i know there's

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things up there and out there

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we're going to have to get in

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communication with the et's tonight and

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we're going to have to send a big flying

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saucer over your car on your way home

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from the studio that's what we're gonna

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have to do right victoria

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exactly i'm already planning it

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okay there we go

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well tom thank you so much for being on

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the show tonight i really appreciate it

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and thank you for telling me about the

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cd because i you know when you said you

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wanted to be on the show to talk about

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some kind of uh event or

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product or something you guys were doing

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and you were just winking at me i was

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like well i don't know what this is all

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about i guess we'll have to find out so

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thank you so much i really appreciate it

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and i promise you you'll get some people

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here at inception radio network buying

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that cd because we really do need to

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support the vets it's very important and

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i really appreciate it it really is a

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good cause and um and the veterans are

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just so important to this country and to

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me personally and i just want to thank

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you for giving me a few minutes here to

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talk about that and and talk ufos and

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we'll definitely talk more out there in

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del rio texas del rio texas at the

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borderlands festival great thanks a lot

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tom have a great night okay guys enjoy

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have a good show

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bye

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well hello there victoria are you with

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me

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i am with you girlfriend

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oh great i was going to do a big old

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mufon report here but you know what it

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it

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after our first break because what i'd

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like to do tonight um i'm trying out a

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new headset i'm having a little hard

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time uh i was having a hard time hearing

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tom and things are working out okay with

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you i wonder if i was just dropping out

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on him but

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anyhow

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what i'd like to do is i'd like you to

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tell people a little bit about yourself

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well i go back into my email

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and i'm going to try to find those

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pictures you sent me so i can get them

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off to mj so he can get them in the chat

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room for you guys tonight

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so i want everybody to see these

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pictures because they're just absolutely

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they're mind-boggling that's for sure

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and uh let me do that so victoria tell

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people first of all am i seeing your

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last name correct is it lillingquist

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yes uh lilin quiz the j silent

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great wonderful okay so i got strike one

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and

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i sent you i've sent you a lot of

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photographs so you might even go

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a couple of days ago because there's uh

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i'm gonna start perusing my email here

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so go ahead victoria tell people who you

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are

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how this all started for you what you're

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doing here and i forgot to mention

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that victoria is going to be a speaker

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at ufo con 2014 this year folks so if

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you like what she's got to say wait till

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you get to the conference and see what

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she's got to show you too she's got even

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more stuff she's going to bring to the

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conference so this is going to be a lot

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of fun tonight so go ahead victoria tell

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people who you are and what you're all

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about at this point

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all righty well it's great to be with

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you all this evening and

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while you're listening you're welcome to

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go to my website which is

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victoriaslight.com

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and there are some amazing

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photographs

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in the film gallery and

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the live video youtubes are

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really stunning also i think you'll

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enjoy those but

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my story actually began

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before i was born and it was in 1947

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and my father

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worked for the secret service

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back in the 1940s and he would chase

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russian spies and

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do all kinds of

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cool

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detective things and

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he was on his way back through the

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desert on

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a cold wintry night of february

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12

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1947 at 2 am

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it came upon a man

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standing on the side of the road and uh

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doggy picked him up and it was back in

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the days when it was safe to pick up

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hitchhikers and so he picked up this

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this man and uh

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he looked a little different he was

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dressed very uh anciently

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um

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and they rode in the car for some time

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and

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the man told my father all about the

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universe and about his life and

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and then he told him about me well i

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did not exist yet except in the ethers

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at that time so

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um

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but and then when he

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got out of the car he'd do materialize

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in front of my father's eyes

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well that was in 47 and then i was born

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a few years later

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and um

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i i came into this life with

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lots of gifts and my parents fortunately

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were really cool about

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helping me um

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not not putting me down but just really

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being fascinated and intrigued with

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the sixth sense gifts and the

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clairaudience and the telepathy i had

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with them

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and i had a visitation when i was five

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from a bean and um

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this man told me about uh my mission and

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what i was here to do

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and then i went and visited with my

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father about this

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little experience i had and

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my father said well um not the same man

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that came to me

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so um pretty much

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victoria

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question

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um

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this man that materialized to you and

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your father was he a relative by chance

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or was he just some kind of no

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odd odd i was waiting for you to come

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back on

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it was actually it was actually ezekiel

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it was ezekiel that um

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went out in the chariot of fire

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okay now how do you know it was ezekiel

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did he tell you

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yes

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okay and

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in 2000

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in sedona that's one of the photographs

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that i emailed you

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it has the chariot of ezekiel

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and

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it was extracted from

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a merkabah vehicle that i filmed on

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christmas eve in 2000

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my friend and i came home from a little

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service and we looked up and and it

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looked like a spoke spinning

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and in 10 minutes it went into over 400

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pictographic images

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and in some of those images one of them

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it goes into a literal chariot

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and i know that that is connected also

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to

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my experiences with ezekiel and when i

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was in my 30s

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i was i spent a lot of time at at my

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family cabin

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and i had tons of missing time but i was

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walking through the forest and i said

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you know i've i've heard you

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talking to me

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you know i don't always see him but i

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would hear him talking in my ear

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and i said i've never asked you your

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name

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and then that's when he told me and when

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i was up at the cabin that was one of

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the first times that i was able to

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capture the mothership

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on film

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and i also was filming myself speaking

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to the camera

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by myself

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had it on the tripod

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and

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all of a sudden the film footage turned

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from

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colored to black and white

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and nobody was touching

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the camera but i'm sure that there were

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beings there you know playing around so

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anyway it was ezekiel and um i have just

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some amazing phenomena on film

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it's transpired since 1994 on film so

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anyway fire away some questions and i

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won't ramble

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okay can you hear me all right

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i can hear you great can you hear me

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okay um we're having some difficulties

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with my new headset i'm trying to set my

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mic volume so everybody can hear me it

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just so happens it was too low and i was

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sitting here talking away and no one

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could hear me so um anyhow i had so many

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i had so many questions for you um

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number one was um you hear this guy

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talking to you in your head is that what

556
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you're saying

557
00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:26,880
it's a it's a telepathic

558
00:22:33,590 --> 00:22:30,080
it's a telepathic uh transmission

559
00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:33,600
that i get i i get them also from

560
00:22:43,669 --> 00:22:36,640
uh you know the space brothers um the

561
00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:44,710
you know

562
00:22:49,669 --> 00:22:48,000
okay cool what i'm trying to hone in on

563
00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:49,679
here is

564
00:22:55,029 --> 00:22:52,320
how do they present themselves to you

565
00:22:57,350 --> 00:22:55,039
and how do you know it's them

566
00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:57,360
and not maybe now i'm just throwing this

567
00:23:02,310 --> 00:22:59,679
out there don't don't take you know

568
00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:02,320
don't take me as being like a weirdo uh

569
00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:04,080
you know a person asking you something

570
00:23:09,669 --> 00:23:06,400
kind of off the wall here but how do you

571
00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:09,679
know it's not a an evil reptilian trying

572
00:23:16,789 --> 00:23:14,549
just throw that out well

573
00:23:19,270 --> 00:23:16,799
you know i've been doing this since i

574
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:19,280
was a child and

575
00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:22,559
i i really have not had any experiences

576
00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:25,280
with reptilians so i can't really

577
00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:27,280
tell you what it'd be like to hear from

578
00:23:31,029 --> 00:23:29,039
a reptilian but

579
00:23:34,149 --> 00:23:31,039
when you're getting a transmission

580
00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:34,159
that's of a positive nature i mean you

581
00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:38,000
you get a good vibe i i know for a fact

582
00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:41,200
that when i was at area 51 filming

583
00:23:44,789 --> 00:23:43,039
because i was a speaker there a few

584
00:23:47,430 --> 00:23:44,799
years ago

585
00:23:49,990 --> 00:23:47,440
i was filming a vehicle that i know was

586
00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:50,000
not benevolent and it blew my battery

587
00:23:52,950 --> 00:23:50,799
out

588
00:23:55,990 --> 00:23:52,960
yeah i felt sick

589
00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:56,000
and i can tell when i'm filming

590
00:24:00,789 --> 00:23:58,640
something that is not of a positive

591
00:24:05,270 --> 00:24:00,799
nature and i'll i'll

592
00:24:07,270 --> 00:24:05,280
cut the camera off and you know i i can

593
00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:07,280
it's just i don't know i'm just

594
00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:09,360
extremely psychic and i've been doing

595
00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:12,159
this my whole life so right yeah because

596
00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:14,080
there's there's a lot of people out

597
00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:16,400
there that um professors there's a lot

598
00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:20,080
of crazy people yeah

599
00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:22,240
and i wasn't gonna say that victoria

600
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because i have a lot of respect for

601
00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:27,120
some of these people but you know i i

602
00:24:29,909 --> 00:24:29,120
sometimes i really have to question

603
00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:29,919
their

604
00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:33,360
total acceptance of everything but i do

605
00:24:38,549 --> 00:24:36,080
understand you you have to be discer you

606
00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:38,559
have to be discerning and this is this

607
00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:41,360
is one thing that i i share when i'm

608
00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:43,679
doing a private consultation on the

609
00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:46,320
phone with somebody or at a conference

610
00:24:51,029 --> 00:24:47,039
it's

611
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to

612
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be

613
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and

614
00:25:00,149 --> 00:24:57,600
you know put yourself in a vortex of

615
00:25:03,269 --> 00:25:00,159
good energy and and it's not you know i

616
00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:03,279
have i have good friends lorien that

617
00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:05,440
have actually had

618
00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:06,400
oh

619
00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:07,600
grays

620
00:25:10,950 --> 00:25:09,919
that have communicated with them for

621
00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:10,960
years

622
00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:14,960
and they've been pretty much benign and

623
00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:15,840
so

624
00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:18,799
i don't you know i'm not going to go and

625
00:25:23,350 --> 00:25:21,600
put a whole bunch of races down i mean i

626
00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:23,360
i have

627
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:28,559
i'm sure that reptilians were involved

628
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:30,480
with their seating process because they

629
00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:32,320
seemed very reptilian

630
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:34,799
but they're very very sweet people but

631
00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:36,480
they kind of look repellent you know

632
00:25:39,430 --> 00:25:37,520
what i mean

633
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:39,440
like when you look in a room

634
00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:41,440
and like what i'm lecturing and i'll

635
00:25:45,510 --> 00:25:43,440
look in the room and i'll see

636
00:25:46,630 --> 00:25:45,520
i'll see all these faces and i'll go

637
00:25:48,789 --> 00:25:46,640
well

638
00:25:52,390 --> 00:25:48,799
you know i can tell this person looks

639
00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:52,400
andromedan this one looks pleiadian

640
00:25:56,470 --> 00:25:54,480
and i do see some that look like they

641
00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:56,480
might be connected to some of the races

642
00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:58,960
that are not my favorite

643
00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:00,480
uh

644
00:26:04,470 --> 00:26:03,200
you know i mean i don't deal with them

645
00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:04,480
and so

646
00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:07,600
i don't like to talk bad about anybody

647
00:26:10,789 --> 00:26:08,720
you know

648
00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:10,799
right

649
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:13,200
you know yeah i'm not into judgment of

650
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:14,640
anybody because

651
00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:17,039
you know somebody might have

652
00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:19,919
some amazing transmission that comes

653
00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:20,799
from

654
00:26:26,630 --> 00:26:23,360
a race that i don't necessarily resonate

655
00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:26,640
with but i'm a very high vibrational

656
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:27,520
being

657
00:26:34,390 --> 00:26:31,360
and i am spiritual but i'm very uh

658
00:26:35,350 --> 00:26:34,400
i am nuts and bold i mean i understand

659
00:26:36,549 --> 00:26:35,360
that

660
00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:36,559
um

661
00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:37,440
through

662
00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:41,200
journey

663
00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:43,279
i have done trial and error and i

664
00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:44,880
constantly

665
00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:47,600
scrutinize like when i'll

666
00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:50,320
film something or i'm you know out with

667
00:26:55,029 --> 00:26:52,720
a group and i just you know i try to

668
00:26:56,549 --> 00:26:55,039
stay very um

669
00:26:58,710 --> 00:26:56,559
discerning

670
00:27:01,830 --> 00:26:58,720
and and i really try to fill it out

671
00:27:03,110 --> 00:27:01,840
before i say well yeah answer that

672
00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:03,120
but

673
00:27:08,390 --> 00:27:06,000
we have so huge yeah and i just i always

674
00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:08,400
bring that up victoria because you know

675
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:10,880
you get to a point where you got to be

676
00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:12,720
careful because there's so many people

677
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:14,720
out there that want to be like on my

678
00:27:18,390 --> 00:27:16,480
radio show or they want to talk to me

679
00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:18,400
about this stuff and i go

680
00:27:22,390 --> 00:27:20,320
well how do you know these guys aren't

681
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:22,400
actually out to get you you know and

682
00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:24,320
they and they'll

683
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:27,520
they'll profess absolute

684
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:30,960
love and uh acceptance of somebody who

685
00:27:36,549 --> 00:27:34,080
is doing very bad harm to them and i

686
00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:36,559
just go what is that all about so i just

687
00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:38,320
i thought i'd ask you you know what you

688
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:40,799
were hearing only because it sounded

689
00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:43,440
very intriguing as to how you're

690
00:27:46,830 --> 00:27:45,440
discerning that and i absolutely know

691
00:27:50,390 --> 00:27:46,840
how you are

692
00:27:52,630 --> 00:27:50,400
because you said you're very psychic and

693
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:52,640
one of the things about psychics is that

694
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:54,799
we can tell whether

695
00:27:59,110 --> 00:27:57,840
a person let alone an alien is got a bad

696
00:28:01,269 --> 00:27:59,120
vibe to them

697
00:28:03,909 --> 00:28:01,279
you know i mean we just walk in a room

698
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:03,919
and we're overwhelmed you know

699
00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:06,399
and uh it's just a knowing you know you

700
00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:08,640
feel it you know it and you're just like

701
00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:10,799
all my hackles go up when i'm in a room

702
00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:12,640
and there's somebody there that's just

703
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:14,640
pure evil you know

704
00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:16,240
and

705
00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:22,640
friends when i was a child i mean

706
00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:23,760
they

707
00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:30,240
going you know this is really cool this

708
00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:32,880
little kid is just full of

709
00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:35,440
full of information you know

710
00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:37,600
so awesome i think

711
00:28:43,269 --> 00:28:41,679
you know when when you're a child you're

712
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:43,279
you are

713
00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:44,880
innocent and

714
00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:48,720
you're in that pure vibe and um

715
00:28:52,149 --> 00:28:50,000
so

716
00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:52,159
you know i just came upon it naturally

717
00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:54,320
in fact a lot of people said

718
00:28:58,630 --> 00:28:55,919
you know well how did you learn to do

719
00:29:01,430 --> 00:28:58,640
this and i i feel kind of guilty because

720
00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:01,440
it all just came to me

721
00:29:06,149 --> 00:29:04,080
and i flowed with it and

722
00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:06,159
and i think that um

723
00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:08,880
a lot of folks when they do see some of

724
00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:11,679
the phenomena that i get on film which

725
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:13,760
is i mean a lot some of it it's just

726
00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:16,880
it's other dimensional things it's um

727
00:29:20,389 --> 00:29:19,039
you can see the portal windows in my

728
00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:20,399
bedroom

729
00:29:26,789 --> 00:29:22,960
wow so you see here you think you're in

730
00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:26,799
your bed like you're not you're

731
00:29:33,590 --> 00:29:28,799
can you hear me okay

732
00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:33,600
um i think we got a little lag there uh

733
00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:35,279
something's going on but i we need to

734
00:29:39,430 --> 00:29:37,200
take our first break so

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insider club and get your vip access

836
00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:48,710
welcome back everyone to the california

837
00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:51,280
mufon radio show i'm your host lorian

838
00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:53,679
fenton we're here on inception radio

839
00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:55,599
network and as you all know it's my home

840
00:35:00,710 --> 00:34:57,280
but my most favorite app in the whole

841
00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:00,720
world but it also has the insiders club

842
00:35:05,109 --> 00:35:03,200
you guys gotta really get to become a

843
00:35:07,510 --> 00:35:05,119
member of the insider's club please

844
00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:07,520
please please it's so much fun i'm gonna

845
00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:09,680
be recording some specials they're here

846
00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:12,640
pretty soon and uh yeah it's gonna be

847
00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:14,400
very interesting what develops in the

848
00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:16,640
insiders club in the next year

849
00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:18,640
because i'm trying to come up with all

850
00:35:23,109 --> 00:35:21,440
kinds of cool specials for it and i know

851
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:23,119
that a few of the other people here the

852
00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:24,720
other hosts are going to be doing some

853
00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:26,240
as well so it's going to be quite

854
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:28,160
interesting what you get at the insiders

855
00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:30,240
club and that's five dollars a month

856
00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:32,160
can't beat the price it's one cup of

857
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:34,640
coffee yet you know those those places

858
00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:36,800
that are now gmo owned i think by

859
00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:39,839
monsanto i that's what i just heard

860
00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:41,839
isn't that terrible oh my gosh

861
00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:43,680
everybody's selling out so make your cup

862
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:46,560
of coffee at home use organic and use

863
00:35:49,829 --> 00:35:48,079
organic filters

864
00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:49,839
and

865
00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:54,880
irn so there you go folks

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00:36:00,390 --> 00:35:57,520
okay well we're back here with victoria

867
00:36:03,030 --> 00:36:00,400
lindquist and i just wanted to say that

868
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:03,040
she is um an extraordinary woman she

869
00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:06,000
sees spacecraft all the time and

870
00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:07,839
now i've got so many questions for i

871
00:36:14,230 --> 00:36:10,400
can't keep them all straight so victoria

872
00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:14,240
you still with me i sure am

873
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:16,000
wow you know

874
00:36:19,030 --> 00:36:17,680
during the first part of the show

875
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:19,040
tonight you were talking about all these

876
00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:21,359
things and my brain was just sizzling i

877
00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:23,280
swear to you it was sizzling with

878
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:24,560
questions

879
00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:26,400
and now half of them are gone because

880
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:28,400
i'm over 40 so you know those things

881
00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:30,320
just fly out the door once they don't

882
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:33,839
get uh you know down and my desk

883
00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:36,400
my desk is a mess today and i didn't

884
00:36:41,109 --> 00:36:38,160
have time to clean it off so i can make

885
00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:41,119
notes during the show so so here i am so

886
00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:42,720
i'm going to fly off the cuff on this

887
00:36:46,310 --> 00:36:44,000
one and say

888
00:36:48,630 --> 00:36:46,320
how do you know that the ships you saw

889
00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:48,640
were merkaba ships and what is the

890
00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:52,160
definition of a merkabah ship

891
00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:54,240
how do we know that well the

892
00:36:59,829 --> 00:36:56,960
the the merkabahs are

893
00:37:03,190 --> 00:36:59,839
they're a different shape i mean they're

894
00:37:06,310 --> 00:37:03,200
they're more of a uh diamond shape

895
00:37:07,589 --> 00:37:06,320
oh okay they're not they're not your

896
00:37:10,790 --> 00:37:07,599
typical

897
00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:10,800
billy myers spacecraft

898
00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:11,839
shape

899
00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:13,440
you know

900
00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:15,520
mexican hat shape

901
00:37:20,550 --> 00:37:17,119
there uh

902
00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:20,560
i i had sent you a photograph a couple

903
00:37:27,589 --> 00:37:24,000
of nights ago of a it was a diamond ship

904
00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:27,599
that was over pedota and um so they're

905
00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:29,200
you know they're more of a

906
00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:31,440
they're more of a diamond but but the

907
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:34,560
one i filmed in sedona on christmas eve

908
00:37:40,310 --> 00:37:37,440
i mean this thing looked like a spoke i

909
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:40,320
mean you would you would see it would

910
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:42,800
you at first you would see it as as you

911
00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:45,599
would like you know oh there's a ufo but

912
00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:48,880
then it would go into a spoke and it

913
00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:51,040
would spin like the wheel within the

914
00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:54,400
wheel you you know if you wow

915
00:37:58,230 --> 00:37:56,400
those things and so

916
00:38:01,349 --> 00:37:58,240
it would it would just it looked like a

917
00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:01,359
spoke or a sparkler and then

918
00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:04,960
in slow motion that's when it would go

919
00:38:11,430 --> 00:38:07,760
when i would still frame it that's where

920
00:38:13,109 --> 00:38:11,440
i extracted over 400 pictographic images

921
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:13,119
and you'll see people

922
00:38:16,829 --> 00:38:14,960
you'll see animals

923
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:16,839
you see them doing

924
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:19,280
formations uh it's so it's like you're

925
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:21,839
seeing people that are actually inside

926
00:38:25,589 --> 00:38:23,359
this merkabah

927
00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:25,599
and um

928
00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:27,680
so that's the

929
00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:30,320
that's a divine brilliant light and the

930
00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:32,720
other thing is is most people know who

931
00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:34,960
drembolo is and he talks about having

932
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:37,520
your own merkla

933
00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:40,640
we can create that energy field around

934
00:38:43,109 --> 00:38:41,520
us

935
00:38:50,390 --> 00:38:43,119
and our body

936
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:52,710
yeah the minute you said that you saw

937
00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:55,440
all kinds of things inside of it

938
00:39:01,030 --> 00:38:58,160
my brain went instantly to

939
00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:01,040
you're basically tapping into an energy

940
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:04,079
of another dimension would i be right on

941
00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:05,520
this

942
00:39:09,829 --> 00:39:06,960
exactly

943
00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:09,839
and it's like these these vehicles i

944
00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:10,880
believe

945
00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:14,000
that the vehicles that uh many of the

946
00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:16,640
ones that i film are coming through

947
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:19,440
wormholes i mean they they're not your

948
00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:20,800
typical

949
00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:22,079
uh

950
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:25,119
they're just not the typical ufo and of

951
00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:28,320
course they say that 80 percent of the

952
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:30,240
ufos that people see

953
00:39:33,910 --> 00:39:32,640
are governmental

954
00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:33,920
you know

955
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:36,640
versions of what they're doing so

956
00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:38,880
i think that um

957
00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:41,760
that's the you that's the unique beauty

958
00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:44,480
of what i've captured on film like i

959
00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:46,640
think you looked at the one video on my

960
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:47,920
website

961
00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:50,160
that it had these

962
00:39:54,790 --> 00:39:52,800
glowing orbs that were playing around

963
00:39:57,750 --> 00:39:54,800
with each other these right

964
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:57,760
and they dance off each other and i'm

965
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:59,359
i've had

966
00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:00,480
people

967
00:40:06,470 --> 00:40:03,920
that said

968
00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:06,480
you know we wouldn't have even been able

969
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:07,760
to

970
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:08,640
um

971
00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:10,880
recreate that because you could see the

972
00:40:15,430 --> 00:40:13,280
blue tail energy and it's some of the

973
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:15,440
hottest footage on the internet

974
00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:18,480
and it it came to my house i mean i was

975
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:20,720
going out to turn the light

976
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:22,960
the porch light on and there and there

977
00:40:27,190 --> 00:40:25,920
they were just hovering by the tree

978
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:27,200
and uh

979
00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:29,920
and i i almost felt like it reminded me

980
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:30,640
of

981
00:40:36,310 --> 00:40:34,079
flying those things because they were

982
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:36,320
kind of playing off each other and

983
00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:38,560
it's really quite beautiful

984
00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:39,920
and um

985
00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:42,240
so there's it's just a little bit

986
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:44,400
different um

987
00:40:49,510 --> 00:40:46,000
than your typical

988
00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:49,520
structural uh although the mexican hat

989
00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:52,560
ufo in rome that i filmed that looks

990
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:54,079
more of a

991
00:41:01,190 --> 00:40:58,640
right like

992
00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:01,200
i know serena's going to be

993
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:04,160
um on the program and she talks about

994
00:41:07,589 --> 00:41:06,079
the organic

995
00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:07,599
ufos and

996
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:10,640
a lot of a lot of film footage that i've

997
00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:13,920
gotten you actually see this cellular

998
00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:16,720
energy that'll go into a diamond shape

999
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:19,040
and sometimes you even see a face

1000
00:41:23,589 --> 00:41:21,440
inside that cellular energy that looks

1001
00:41:26,550 --> 00:41:23,599
kind of like kuan yin

1002
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:26,560
and that is come to the house all the

1003
00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:29,200
time on the lake where i i lived

1004
00:41:33,750 --> 00:41:31,920
i'm in in colorado here

1005
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:33,760
so

1006
00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:36,160
anyway there's just all kinds of

1007
00:41:43,270 --> 00:41:39,359
things but before we you know when we

1008
00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:43,280
had the break i was just mentioning that

1009
00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:45,440
the other thing that happens is i'm able

1010
00:41:49,990 --> 00:41:48,720
to get portal dimensions on film

1011
00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:50,000
and

1012
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:51,200
one night

1013
00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:54,079
my dog he's passed away now but he was

1014
00:41:59,430 --> 00:41:56,960
painting he was seeing things in the in

1015
00:42:01,750 --> 00:41:59,440
my bedroom in the dark so i started

1016
00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:01,760
shooting the camera in the dark and i

1017
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:04,400
was actually able to get the portal

1018
00:42:09,109 --> 00:42:05,760
windows

1019
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:09,119
of the ship on my bedroom wall

1020
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:12,000
so even though i felt like i was in my

1021
00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:13,520
bedroom

1022
00:42:17,349 --> 00:42:15,760
what was conveyed to me is we think

1023
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:17,359
we're in our bedroom but we're in a

1024
00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:19,359
hologram of our bedroom

1025
00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:21,520
but we're really on the ship and that's

1026
00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:23,680
why a lot of us have these experiences

1027
00:42:26,069 --> 00:42:25,119
at night

1028
00:42:28,309 --> 00:42:26,079
when

1029
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:28,319
we're going back and forth

1030
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:30,720
we're very busy we might be worn out in

1031
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:32,720
the morning you know you know how it

1032
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:35,280
feels oh i do think it's been working

1033
00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:36,480
all night

1034
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:38,960
and you're going wow you know i must

1035
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:40,560
have been busy last night and you'll

1036
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:42,880
talk to five people and everybody will

1037
00:42:49,030 --> 00:42:46,079
say same thing happened to me last night

1038
00:42:50,630 --> 00:42:49,040
so i think you know i think we're all

1039
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:50,640
beaming

1040
00:42:59,190 --> 00:42:56,800
little orientation meetings and

1041
00:43:02,069 --> 00:42:59,200
i agree with you you know

1042
00:43:05,109 --> 00:43:02,079
exactly it's very funny you said about

1043
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:05,119
being in the bedroom and the portal um

1044
00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:07,280
because i that's one of my greats you

1045
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:10,000
know my great stories i use one of my

1046
00:43:13,589 --> 00:43:10,800
most

1047
00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:13,599
scariest stories of uh that's going into

1048
00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:16,240
my book is that was one of the

1049
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:18,319
first things that happened to me growing

1050
00:43:22,950 --> 00:43:21,359
up was that i saw the wall kind of melt

1051
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:22,960
away and

1052
00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:26,560
and a circular portal opened up and a

1053
00:43:31,990 --> 00:43:29,440
woman came down this long hallway of

1054
00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:32,000
light towards me from

1055
00:43:36,550 --> 00:43:33,200
the wall

1056
00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:36,560
and

1057
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:39,520
so i'm like going whoa okay

1058
00:43:44,390 --> 00:43:42,079
that's very bizarre but um

1059
00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:44,400
so yeah i've always wondered if we

1060
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:48,000
weren't just living in uh you know as

1061
00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:50,160
holograms or you know i don't know

1062
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:52,480
what's going on with this but i was

1063
00:43:57,270 --> 00:43:54,880
victoria i was out of my body

1064
00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:57,280
i was actually astral projecting because

1065
00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:59,520
i was looking at my body laying on the

1066
00:44:01,910 --> 00:44:00,880
bed

1067
00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:01,920
yeah

1068
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:04,560
so did they take me did they

1069
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:06,400
see i kind of got the double whammy on

1070
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:09,040
that one did they take me out of my body

1071
00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:12,160
and then open the portal or did they do

1072
00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:14,400
they usually just open the portal

1073
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:17,760
and you're in your 3d body and it all

1074
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:18,880
goes

1075
00:44:23,670 --> 00:44:22,079
or they're just connecting to our atoms

1076
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:23,680
is what i'm trying to say i don't know

1077
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:25,839
how i'm trying to say this but it just

1078
00:44:30,390 --> 00:44:27,760
seemed like do they have to pull you out

1079
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:30,400
of your body to get you to that place or

1080
00:44:36,470 --> 00:44:33,599
are you left here in 3d reality

1081
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:36,480
i oh okay this is this is this is how i

1082
00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:40,400
feel um this is what i believe is that

1083
00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:41,760
um

1084
00:44:48,829 --> 00:44:46,880
as we are evolving in our consciousness

1085
00:44:51,950 --> 00:44:48,839
we are able to

1086
00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:51,960
experience multi-dimensions

1087
00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:54,480
simultaneously a lot of us are doing

1088
00:44:59,430 --> 00:44:55,760
that now

1089
00:45:01,750 --> 00:44:59,440
absolutely and we can do that when we're

1090
00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:01,760
asleep so

1091
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:02,640
um

1092
00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:05,520
like i'll give an example my body will

1093
00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:06,800
get so

1094
00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:08,560
darn cold

1095
00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:12,480
and just just like i'm a frozen dinner

1096
00:45:17,910 --> 00:45:14,960
like i'm not in my body

1097
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:17,920
and if you know if if i'm at a friend's

1098
00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:19,920
house and they're just they're going you

1099
00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:22,160
know she's not in there i mean they can

1100
00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:23,119
tell

1101
00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:25,839
and i'm out of my body and then when i

1102
00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:28,000
come back you know it's like i'm just

1103
00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:30,560
it's 110 degrees in phoenix and i'm

1104
00:45:35,510 --> 00:45:33,760
wearing sweats and so

1105
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:35,520
there's this

1106
00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:40,480
mean the process that you're asking

1107
00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:43,200
about well does the portal happen first

1108
00:45:47,829 --> 00:45:45,599
or you know i'm not sure how it happens

1109
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:47,839
for you i just know that

1110
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:49,359
um

1111
00:45:55,829 --> 00:45:52,560
maybe this will help you understand

1112
00:45:58,150 --> 00:45:55,839
when you're walking around in your house

1113
00:46:01,109 --> 00:45:58,160
and you lay something down let's say you

1114
00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:01,119
lay your cell phone down and you walk in

1115
00:46:06,069 --> 00:46:03,040
the other room and then you come back

1116
00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:06,079
and your cell phone is not there

1117
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:08,000
and you look everywhere for it has that

1118
00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:09,280
happened to you

1119
00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:10,160
oh

1120
00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:12,400
that's been happening my whole life and

1121
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:15,119
it's not cell phones it's everything

1122
00:46:21,109 --> 00:46:18,720
anything anything okay well um

1123
00:46:24,309 --> 00:46:21,119
when that happens

1124
00:46:26,150 --> 00:46:24,319
to me and then i'll just get frantic and

1125
00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:26,160
i'll go running around trying to find

1126
00:46:30,069 --> 00:46:28,240
what i couldn't find and then all of a

1127
00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:30,079
sudden i'll go back there and there it

1128
00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:31,280
is

1129
00:46:36,309 --> 00:46:33,599
well then you have been

1130
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:36,319
you've been beaming in and out of your

1131
00:46:42,069 --> 00:46:39,280
body while you're in a conscious state

1132
00:46:43,870 --> 00:46:42,079
you're consciously walking around but

1133
00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:43,880
you're experiencing this

1134
00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:46,560
multi-dimensional experience so

1135
00:46:49,829 --> 00:46:48,800
and this happens to everybody

1136
00:46:51,750 --> 00:46:49,839
and

1137
00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:51,760
i just uh

1138
00:46:56,069 --> 00:46:53,280
what happens

1139
00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:56,079
when i get my transmissions is they will

1140
00:47:01,109 --> 00:46:58,000
explain to me

1141
00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:01,119
why i just had that experience and so

1142
00:47:05,990 --> 00:47:03,280
over the years i have gained more

1143
00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:06,000
understanding of how to how

1144
00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:07,839
to help other people

1145
00:47:13,670 --> 00:47:10,880
say hey you're not nuts this is just you

1146
00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:13,680
know you're you're beaming back and

1147
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:16,079
forth into your body and it's like

1148
00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:17,920
sitting in a

1149
00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:20,160
a traffic jam

1150
00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:24,400
be sitting there

1151
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:27,040
you can be beaming back and forth or how

1152
00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:29,440
many times gloria and have you been on

1153
00:47:33,910 --> 00:47:30,960
the freeway

1154
00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:33,920
and you have passed your exit

1155
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:36,640
you've gone maybe 15 20 minutes out of

1156
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:38,480
your way

1157
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:42,160
okay i can't even you know my whole life

1158
00:47:47,270 --> 00:47:45,040
and i am an amazing uh person when it

1159
00:47:48,550 --> 00:47:47,280
comes to direction i could find my way

1160
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:48,560
anywhere

1161
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:51,200
but i have just the other day i was

1162
00:47:55,349 --> 00:47:52,720
heading out to

1163
00:47:58,870 --> 00:47:55,359
laughlin nevada and i ended up in san

1164
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:58,880
francisco because i spaced out

1165
00:48:02,309 --> 00:48:00,400
where i was going

1166
00:48:04,790 --> 00:48:02,319
suddenly i'm in san francisco i go wait

1167
00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:04,800
a minute i needed to turn off ages ago

1168
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:06,720
to go over to the east bay what am i

1169
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:07,920
doing

1170
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:11,119
so i was completely gone i was somewhere

1171
00:48:14,550 --> 00:48:13,440
else for a very long time that was a

1172
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:14,560
while

1173
00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:16,000
that happened

1174
00:48:23,349 --> 00:48:20,480
out with the ships

1175
00:48:24,790 --> 00:48:23,359
at night and i'm driving like in the

1176
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:24,800
mountains

1177
00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:27,520
and i'll see them kind of flying along

1178
00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:29,440
the side of the road and sometimes

1179
00:48:35,349 --> 00:48:31,440
they'll throw the flaming

1180
00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:35,359
basketball meteors in front of my car

1181
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:38,319
and i'll pull off the side and i'll

1182
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:40,880
think i'm there for 15 minutes and then

1183
00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:42,240
three hours

1184
00:48:46,309 --> 00:48:43,200
but

1185
00:48:47,750 --> 00:48:46,319
i there's you know there's all this you

1186
00:48:49,910 --> 00:48:47,760
know you just all of a sudden you're

1187
00:48:52,549 --> 00:48:49,920
disoriented and you go

1188
00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:52,559
i don't even know where i am did i cast

1189
00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:56,800
that i passed that exit an hour ago or

1190
00:49:00,790 --> 00:48:59,440
it just you know this is this is one of

1191
00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:00,800
the things that i've just learned to

1192
00:49:05,990 --> 00:49:03,760
live with in my crazy

1193
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:06,000
crazy journey and i sure i'm sure that

1194
00:49:10,549 --> 00:49:08,160
everybody's doing this all the time and

1195
00:49:12,069 --> 00:49:10,559
it's it just helps to compare notes

1196
00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:12,079
we're all doing it

1197
00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:13,839
well you know it's interesting you just

1198
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:16,720
said compare notes because i was sitting

1199
00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:19,040
here i'm i'm going to be speaking at the

1200
00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:22,000
conscious life expo in los angeles uh in

1201
00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:23,440
february

1202
00:49:28,390 --> 00:49:25,119
and i may be speaking at a few more

1203
00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:28,400
conferences coming up in 2015

1204
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:30,480
myself as well i mean besides being a

1205
00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:32,880
conference producer i'm starting now to

1206
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:34,960
speak out about what's happened to me

1207
00:49:39,829 --> 00:49:36,960
and what's going on in the world and

1208
00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:39,839
what i finally realized this morning uh

1209
00:49:43,589 --> 00:49:41,280
taking a shower

1210
00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:43,599
is that all i need to do is get up and

1211
00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:45,440
tell people that they've got to go out

1212
00:49:50,470 --> 00:49:47,359
and start spreading the word like

1213
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:50,480
apostles out there because the problem

1214
00:49:55,349 --> 00:49:52,960
we've had i think in the ufo community

1215
00:49:57,670 --> 00:49:55,359
going on for quite some time is that

1216
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:57,680
we've had all these leaders

1217
00:50:02,069 --> 00:50:00,240
and people kind of gather around them

1218
00:50:04,390 --> 00:50:02,079
and they expect to get

1219
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:04,400
anointed or enlightened or be able to

1220
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:07,280
see ufos after touching them or i don't

1221
00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:09,280
know what the deal is with

1222
00:50:14,069 --> 00:50:11,200
all these kind of gurus that we've

1223
00:50:16,549 --> 00:50:14,079
created in the ufo community and what i

1224
00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:16,559
realized in the shower was that you know

1225
00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:18,800
there's no more time for gurus we don't

1226
00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:21,119
have time for that what we have time for

1227
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:22,960
is if you're speaking at a conference

1228
00:50:26,710 --> 00:50:24,720
you almost have a

1229
00:50:29,510 --> 00:50:26,720
an obligation

1230
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:29,520
and a responsibility at this point to

1231
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:31,599
share everything that's happened to you

1232
00:50:35,030 --> 00:50:33,440
and make sure that everybody in that

1233
00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:35,040
room who has the same kind of

1234
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:36,480
experiences

1235
00:50:41,349 --> 00:50:39,200
is able to feel safe enough to turn to

1236
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:41,359
the person behind them or sitting next

1237
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:43,280
to them or in front of them just like in

1238
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:46,720
a church situation and say hey i've had

1239
00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:49,200
some really crazy experiences too do you

1240
00:50:53,109 --> 00:50:51,040
want to hear about him or talk to him

1241
00:50:55,510 --> 00:50:53,119
during the breaks or feel comfortable

1242
00:50:57,990 --> 00:50:55,520
enough that they can actually at some

1243
00:51:00,390 --> 00:50:58,000
point go out to their family their

1244
00:51:02,790 --> 00:51:00,400
friends their co-workers everybody

1245
00:51:05,589 --> 00:51:02,800
around them and not be afraid to tell

1246
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:05,599
them what is actually going on out there

1247
00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:06,640
because

1248
00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:08,880
they would be absolutely shocked to find

1249
00:51:12,549 --> 00:51:10,160
out that

1250
00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:12,559
5 out of 10 people sitting next to them

1251
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:14,559
in the cubicle are having the same kind

1252
00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:16,720
of experiences but are petrified to even

1253
00:51:20,829 --> 00:51:18,000
bring it up

1254
00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:20,839
and that's where we're at now

1255
00:51:26,790 --> 00:51:24,160
yep i think i i agree with you on this

1256
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:26,800
this guru thing because it's like

1257
00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:28,079
people

1258
00:51:35,109 --> 00:51:32,559
probably never be able to do that and i

1259
00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:35,119
go you're already doing it you just need

1260
00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:36,480
to start

1261
00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:37,839
owning it

1262
00:51:41,430 --> 00:51:39,119
absolutely

1263
00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:41,440
and embracing

1264
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:45,280
the evolution we are we are evolving so

1265
00:51:48,870 --> 00:51:47,760
that we can go to our next evolutionary

1266
00:51:51,910 --> 00:51:48,880
station

1267
00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:51,920
uh even dr j.j herteg is a good friend

1268
00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:53,440
of mine and he's

1269
00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:56,000
he's uh written the keys of enoch that

1270
00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:58,559
unifies his spiritual and the

1271
00:52:02,309 --> 00:52:00,480
and the scientific

1272
00:52:05,349 --> 00:52:02,319
minds and

1273
00:52:06,630 --> 00:52:05,359
um there's these processes and

1274
00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:06,640
everyone

1275
00:52:11,589 --> 00:52:09,359
cat we all have

1276
00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:11,599
the birthright

1277
00:52:21,829 --> 00:52:13,040
to

1278
00:52:24,069 --> 00:52:21,839
and

1279
00:52:25,430 --> 00:52:24,079
sometimes i'll see people going up to a

1280
00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:25,440
speaker and

1281
00:52:29,589 --> 00:52:27,520
they're all just

1282
00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:29,599
dabbling all over and

1283
00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:31,920
practically bowing to them and and the

1284
00:52:36,309 --> 00:52:33,760
speaker sometimes doesn't even

1285
00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:36,319
acknowledge that person's light

1286
00:52:42,309 --> 00:52:39,599
and that makes me sad because

1287
00:52:44,790 --> 00:52:42,319
you know i just i love

1288
00:52:47,670 --> 00:52:44,800
seeing the light of each

1289
00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:47,680
each individual and and what we all

1290
00:52:51,109 --> 00:52:49,760
create we're all part of this great

1291
00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:51,119
orchestra

1292
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:52,240
and

1293
00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:57,359
we are creating a whole new paradigm

1294
00:53:02,549 --> 00:53:00,480
a new blueprint for humanity and the

1295
00:53:03,349 --> 00:53:02,559
children that are coming in that are

1296
00:53:05,910 --> 00:53:03,359
just

1297
00:53:07,589 --> 00:53:05,920
so magnificent and they're teaching us

1298
00:53:09,589 --> 00:53:07,599
and so

1299
00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:09,599
we learn from each other

1300
00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:11,920
and it is funny when

1301
00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:15,520
like people come to like the movie that

1302
00:53:21,109 --> 00:53:16,240
i

1303
00:53:23,190 --> 00:53:21,119
was sort of one of those

1304
00:53:26,069 --> 00:53:23,200
things i just was guided to do it wasn't

1305
00:53:28,150 --> 00:53:26,079
like i thought oh i'm gonna become a big

1306
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:28,160
film producer or anything it was just

1307
00:53:33,109 --> 00:53:30,480
i'm gonna i'm gonna document my

1308
00:53:36,150 --> 00:53:33,119
experiences well people that came to the

1309
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:36,160
movie they're going oh well

1310
00:53:40,710 --> 00:53:38,160
lois i didn't know you were into this

1311
00:53:43,109 --> 00:53:40,720
well gladys i didn't know you were into

1312
00:53:44,950 --> 00:53:43,119
this but it was so great because they

1313
00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:44,960
all found each other

1314
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:48,319
in the audience of seeing the movie

1315
00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:50,720
and i think that's the beauty of it

1316
00:53:55,990 --> 00:53:52,880
you know that's exactly what it should

1317
00:53:58,470 --> 00:53:56,000
be it it's what's it's what's scaring me

1318
00:53:59,670 --> 00:53:58,480
about the whole community these days is

1319
00:54:01,510 --> 00:53:59,680
you know i have to go to these

1320
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:01,520
conferences all the time because i'm

1321
00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:04,960
promoting my conference or recording or

1322
00:54:10,950 --> 00:54:07,280
doing live broadcasts or whatever i'm

1323
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:10,960
doing and i'm just absolutely mortified

1324
00:54:19,510 --> 00:54:15,040
by the amount of oh gosh how do i even

1325
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:19,520
describe it um the amount of

1326
00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:22,240
well i i can't even describe it it just

1327
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:24,640
feels to me like there's something

1328
00:54:28,390 --> 00:54:26,160
really wrong

1329
00:54:30,549 --> 00:54:28,400
at the conferences

1330
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:30,559
and it's it's almost on a spiritual

1331
00:54:36,150 --> 00:54:32,880
level i think i think it's the tone of

1332
00:54:38,150 --> 00:54:36,160
how they they set them and i i just

1333
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:38,160
think that there's something very

1334
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:40,720
bizarre going on right now

1335
00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:42,240
i don't know if this is there do you

1336
00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:43,760
feel

1337
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:49,760
that like they're um

1338
00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:52,960
withholding the expansion of the energy

1339
00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:55,920
and they're keeping it sort of

1340
00:55:01,109 --> 00:54:58,960
walled off into a stretch absolutely you

1341
00:55:03,349 --> 00:55:01,119
know what i feel like victoria what i

1342
00:55:05,589 --> 00:55:03,359
really wanted to say is that i feel like

1343
00:55:08,230 --> 00:55:05,599
they're hiding something from me

1344
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:08,240
i feel like there's people there that

1345
00:55:13,670 --> 00:55:11,040
have a different agenda than the people

1346
00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:13,680
who are the experiencers

1347
00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:16,079
and there are people there that this is

1348
00:55:23,349 --> 00:55:21,200
really a a um a way to corral people

1349
00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:23,359
into thinking the way they want you to

1350
00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:26,079
think by who they present as speakers

1351
00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:29,440
and what they present and there are a

1352
00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:30,960
lot of people

1353
00:55:36,390 --> 00:55:34,240
in on what i call on the circuit that i

1354
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:36,400
think are hiding something or maybe

1355
00:55:41,270 --> 00:55:38,960
working for a different force than maybe

1356
00:55:43,030 --> 00:55:41,280
you you're working for maybe i'm working

1357
00:55:45,990 --> 00:55:43,040
for you know and i don't even know why

1358
00:55:49,030 --> 00:55:46,000
both are playing both sides playing

1359
00:55:50,549 --> 00:55:49,040
exactly yeah yeah exactly

1360
00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:50,559
and i gotta tell you victoria i don't

1361
00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:52,319
know if you know the story but i'm gonna

1362
00:55:56,150 --> 00:55:54,319
i'm gonna tell you about it because this

1363
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:56,160
is a good time to share it and i think

1364
00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:58,000
my audience has probably heard it once

1365
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:00,720
already um i saw my first triangle

1366
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:03,839
spacecraft on 11 1

1367
00:56:08,309 --> 00:56:05,440
14

1368
00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:08,319
and i had made a very spiritual

1369
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:10,960
conscious decision that i was quitting

1370
00:56:15,829 --> 00:56:13,440
the whole ufo thing i was going to stop

1371
00:56:18,789 --> 00:56:15,839
i was driving up to the event that day

1372
00:56:20,789 --> 00:56:18,799
it was our our monthly mufon meeting

1373
00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:20,799
and i said to myself you know this has

1374
00:56:24,309 --> 00:56:22,720
got to end because you know the cats

1375
00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:24,319
aren't getting fed the electricity

1376
00:56:28,870 --> 00:56:26,480
bill's not getting paid and i can't find

1377
00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:28,880
a job once they look me up on the

1378
00:56:33,670 --> 00:56:31,680
internet it's like it's a game over you

1379
00:56:35,510 --> 00:56:33,680
know it's like we don't want a crazy

1380
00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:35,520
lady working for us i can just hear him

1381
00:56:38,789 --> 00:56:37,680
you know i don't even have to know i can

1382
00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:38,799
hear it

1383
00:56:43,829 --> 00:56:41,440
right here

1384
00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:43,839
so and i'm always one of the last three

1385
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out of like 300 people to be interviewed

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00:56:51,670 --> 00:56:49,440
and then you know anyhow i changed that

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00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:51,680
paradigm but that's another whole story

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00:56:57,829 --> 00:56:54,160
um but the bottom line was i made a very

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spiritual mental spiritual soul

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00:57:03,430 --> 00:57:00,559
chakra connecting decision that i was

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00:57:05,270 --> 00:57:03,440
not gonna do this anymore that after ufo

1392
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:05,280
con it was over for me and i wasn't

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00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:07,680
gonna you know lose all the money i lose

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00:57:10,309 --> 00:57:09,599
and you know whatever else goes on with

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00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:10,319
it

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00:57:16,789 --> 00:57:13,920
so um we're there that night and i see

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00:57:19,510 --> 00:57:16,799
this spacecraft now i got home and i

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00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:19,520
realized somebody out there's pulling my

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00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:21,440
strings they've been doing this for a

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00:57:26,789 --> 00:57:23,680
very very long time they've done it

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00:57:30,150 --> 00:57:26,799
since i almost died in 2009

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00:57:32,549 --> 00:57:30,160
and they know my future somehow they

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00:57:35,190 --> 00:57:32,559
know where i'm going and who i'm taking

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00:57:37,030 --> 00:57:35,200
along with me and what i'm doing i'm not

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00:57:41,109 --> 00:57:37,040
sure who's pulling the strings though it

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00:57:44,150 --> 00:57:41,119
kind of scares me because i've had a uh

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00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:44,160
an interesting reptilian connect contact

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00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:46,480
i've had a lot of what i call angel

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00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:48,720
contact and i've also probably had some

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00:57:53,750 --> 00:57:51,359
et contact that i can't remember i've

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00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:53,760
also had some mylabs contact through my

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00:57:58,390 --> 00:57:56,400
super soldier group and all kinds of

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00:58:00,309 --> 00:57:58,400
these things going on so what scares me

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00:58:01,349 --> 00:58:00,319
the most about all this i know in my

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00:58:03,190 --> 00:58:01,359
heart

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00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:03,200
i'm absolutely

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00:58:08,069 --> 00:58:05,440
down with everything being good and

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00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:08,079
beautiful but i've also been shown that

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00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:10,400
there's a lot of evil in this world so

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00:58:13,750 --> 00:58:12,160
you know i just get scared sometimes

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00:58:15,430 --> 00:58:13,760
because they go who's really pulling my

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00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:15,440
strings and are they really duping me

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00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:17,280
and i have to really go in and do a lot

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00:58:20,549 --> 00:58:18,720
of reflection

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00:58:22,710 --> 00:58:20,559
and make sure that i'm the one in

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00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:22,720
control and that they aren't

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00:58:26,710 --> 00:58:24,640
and i think that's really important for

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00:58:29,109 --> 00:58:26,720
people to understand as well and we only

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00:58:30,390 --> 00:58:29,119
have like less than a minute here for

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00:58:32,710 --> 00:58:30,400
the next break

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00:58:35,109 --> 00:58:32,720
so if you want to quickly make a comment

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00:58:37,829 --> 00:58:35,119
then comment on what i just told you

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00:58:39,430 --> 00:58:37,839
after the break how's that sound i will

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00:58:43,109 --> 00:58:39,440
do that

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00:58:45,990 --> 00:58:43,119
okay great okay wonderful so um anyhow

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00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:46,000
so yeah it basically comes down to like

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00:58:51,349 --> 00:58:48,400
um thank god

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00:58:54,150 --> 00:58:51,359
i know who i am that's one thing i can

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00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:54,160
give all the angels all the experiences

1440
00:58:57,990 --> 00:58:55,520
all the things that have happened to me

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00:58:59,190 --> 00:58:58,000
my whole life my predictions my seeing

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00:59:01,430 --> 00:58:59,200
the future

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00:59:03,190 --> 00:59:01,440
you know everything thank god it all

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00:59:05,270 --> 00:59:03,200
happened to me and thank god i've

1445
00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:05,280
experienced some really amazingly

1446
00:59:10,549 --> 00:59:07,920
horrific things as well because without

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00:59:12,789 --> 00:59:10,559
that i wouldn't know who i am so i'm

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00:59:14,230 --> 00:59:12,799
very grateful for that so having said

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00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:14,240
that folks we're going to take a quick

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00:59:19,349 --> 00:59:16,079
break here we'll be right back with

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00:59:22,309 --> 00:59:19,359
victoria lindquist and we'll talk more

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00:59:23,990 --> 00:59:22,319
about what i don't know that

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mufon radio show i'm your host lauren

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01:03:49,430 --> 01:03:46,559
fenton we're back here on inception

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01:03:51,910 --> 01:03:49,440
radio network with victoria lindquist

1543
01:03:53,510 --> 01:03:51,920
and we're talking about i see i don't

1544
01:03:56,150 --> 01:03:53,520
know what we're talking about but we're

1545
01:03:58,309 --> 01:03:56,160
talking about it

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01:04:00,069 --> 01:03:58,319
because we're really

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01:04:02,710 --> 01:04:00,079
your encounter

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01:04:03,990 --> 01:04:02,720
about your about seeing your spaceship

1549
01:04:06,630 --> 01:04:04,000
and how it

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01:04:07,990 --> 01:04:06,640
how it shifted you

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01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:08,000
to uh

1552
01:04:13,829 --> 01:04:11,280
remain committed to your path

1553
01:04:16,309 --> 01:04:13,839
yeah yeah or actually basically what it

1554
01:04:17,990 --> 01:04:16,319
did is it said oh gosh are you kidding

1555
01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:18,000
me you can't escape

1556
01:04:22,549 --> 01:04:20,160
you're part of the group

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01:04:24,390 --> 01:04:22,559
there's no there's no turning back now

1558
01:04:27,029 --> 01:04:24,400
it's too late

1559
01:04:30,230 --> 01:04:27,039
so what's your take on reporting it's

1560
01:04:32,069 --> 01:04:30,240
called reporting for duty lorient

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01:04:34,630 --> 01:04:32,079
absolutely

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01:04:36,950 --> 01:04:34,640
i they were gonna let me go awol that's

1563
01:04:38,470 --> 01:04:36,960
for sure but you know i gotta say one

1564
01:04:40,549 --> 01:04:38,480
other quick thing about the whole

1565
01:04:42,710 --> 01:04:40,559
experience my whole life has been an

1566
01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:42,720
amazing adventure and i wouldn't trade

1567
01:04:47,589 --> 01:04:44,960
it for the world people say to me oh my

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01:04:50,309 --> 01:04:47,599
god how many i've had so many different

1569
01:04:52,150 --> 01:04:50,319
lives within a life i've been i'm a

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01:04:55,589 --> 01:04:52,160
webmaster i've been a professional

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01:04:58,630 --> 01:04:55,599
dancer i was a musician i was a potter

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01:04:59,430 --> 01:04:58,640
i've been an editor i'm a bookkeeper i'm

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01:05:00,549 --> 01:04:59,440
a

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network

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01:05:06,950 --> 01:05:04,480
to be if i went back to school again and

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01:05:09,990 --> 01:05:06,960
got another certification i could do it

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01:05:12,549 --> 01:05:10,000
you know i mean i could do anything i

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01:05:14,069 --> 01:05:12,559
want because there's one thing i learned

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01:05:16,549 --> 01:05:14,079
when i was a kid

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01:05:18,549 --> 01:05:16,559
my dad was the most amazing man in the

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01:05:19,750 --> 01:05:18,559
world he was probably one of the deepest

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01:05:21,349 --> 01:05:19,760
thinkers he should have been a

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01:05:24,549 --> 01:05:21,359
philosopher but they just don't have a

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01:05:27,589 --> 01:05:24,559
job description for that anymore and he

1585
01:05:30,470 --> 01:05:27,599
told well besides throwing cyprus

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01:05:32,630 --> 01:05:30,480
what is it uh psycho cybernetics at me

1587
01:05:34,630 --> 01:05:32,640
at 13 and said you need to read this and

1588
01:05:36,870 --> 01:05:34,640
understand it that was really

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01:05:38,150 --> 01:05:36,880
interesting but beside that he always

1590
01:05:40,390 --> 01:05:38,160
told me

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01:05:42,630 --> 01:05:40,400
if you can work for yourself you are a

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01:05:44,549 --> 01:05:42,640
free man and i never understood that

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01:05:46,549 --> 01:05:44,559
until i got older and i started my own

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01:05:48,230 --> 01:05:46,559
businesses and i realized

1595
01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:48,240
hey i don't have to go to work for

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01:05:53,109 --> 01:05:50,400
anybody else i will never be a slave to

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01:05:54,630 --> 01:05:53,119
the workforce that way and he was dead

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01:05:57,190 --> 01:05:54,640
right about that and then the other

1599
01:06:00,309 --> 01:05:57,200
thing he was dead right about was if you

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set your mind to it you can do anything

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01:06:04,069 --> 01:06:01,839
you want

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01:06:06,309 --> 01:06:04,079
and i really took that to heart and it

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01:06:08,150 --> 01:06:06,319
really it does come down to it first you

1604
01:06:09,829 --> 01:06:08,160
got to know who you are

1605
01:06:12,069 --> 01:06:09,839
and then you have to know how much your

1606
01:06:13,589 --> 01:06:12,079
mind can process and those are the two

1607
01:06:16,390 --> 01:06:13,599
things you've got to know going into

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01:06:18,710 --> 01:06:16,400
that whole equation and the first part

1609
01:06:20,549 --> 01:06:18,720
of that is know who you are second part

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01:06:21,750 --> 01:06:20,559
is you know i'm never going to be a

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01:06:24,630 --> 01:06:21,760
physicist

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01:06:26,950 --> 01:06:24,640
so or rocket scientist or a great

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01:06:28,470 --> 01:06:26,960
mathematician so i set my sights on

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01:06:30,549 --> 01:06:28,480
things i could do

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01:06:32,950 --> 01:06:30,559
in the computer industry

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01:06:34,870 --> 01:06:32,960
i love bookkeeping i love numbers i love

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01:06:37,349 --> 01:06:34,880
being able to make things

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01:06:38,789 --> 01:06:37,359
very orderly and neat and bookkeeping is

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01:06:40,710 --> 01:06:38,799
actually that

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01:06:43,430 --> 01:06:40,720
and so that's as far as i can go when it

1621
01:06:45,190 --> 01:06:43,440
comes to be a brainiac but uh and you

1622
01:06:47,589 --> 01:06:45,200
know an it certification a little

1623
01:06:49,589 --> 01:06:47,599
programming i can do that too but you

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01:06:51,990 --> 01:06:49,599
know i knew that's what i could do if i

1625
01:06:52,950 --> 01:06:52,000
set my mind to it i could do it

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01:06:54,870 --> 01:06:52,960
and

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01:06:56,470 --> 01:06:54,880
you know that's why people just look at

1628
01:06:59,270 --> 01:06:56,480
me and go how did you do all these

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01:07:02,230 --> 01:06:59,280
things i said because i knew i could

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01:07:04,630 --> 01:07:02,240
i never set limitation

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01:07:06,789 --> 01:07:04,640
yeah and you know i think your father

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01:07:08,150 --> 01:07:06,799
and my father must have gone to the same

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01:07:09,589 --> 01:07:08,160
school because

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01:07:11,750 --> 01:07:09,599
um

1635
01:07:13,510 --> 01:07:11,760
oh by the way my father didn't stay

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01:07:15,990 --> 01:07:13,520
working for

1637
01:07:19,190 --> 01:07:16,000
you know the secret stuff i mean he

1638
01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:19,200
he went on other journeys but what i was

1639
01:07:24,230 --> 01:07:21,599
going to say is he had me reading think

1640
01:07:26,390 --> 01:07:24,240
and grow rich

1641
01:07:29,190 --> 01:07:26,400
and all of that i was reading all of

1642
01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:29,200
that stuff in junior high too so

1643
01:07:35,670 --> 01:07:33,119
i totally i totally can relate so i do

1644
01:07:37,829 --> 01:07:35,680
think that um

1645
01:07:40,230 --> 01:07:37,839
you know there's there's just so much

1646
01:07:43,589 --> 01:07:40,240
more to us and i'll joke with people and

1647
01:07:45,670 --> 01:07:43,599
say you know the scientists

1648
01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:45,680
might not appreciate me

1649
01:07:50,470 --> 01:07:47,760
but in the universe i am a great

1650
01:07:52,870 --> 01:07:50,480
scientist because i've i mean

1651
01:07:53,990 --> 01:07:52,880
anybody that can capture a mothership on

1652
01:07:56,950 --> 01:07:54,000
film

1653
01:07:59,190 --> 01:07:56,960
um the way i do and a lot of people try

1654
01:08:02,230 --> 01:07:59,200
but nobody gets what i get

1655
01:08:03,750 --> 01:08:02,240
and so and and i you know i'm not a

1656
01:08:06,549 --> 01:08:03,760
i'm not a brain

1657
01:08:09,589 --> 01:08:06,559
but i'm just you know an intuitive

1658
01:08:11,349 --> 01:08:09,599
so oh wow that's so amazing i just can't

1659
01:08:14,309 --> 01:08:11,359
even believe it it's just i can't wait

1660
01:08:17,110 --> 01:08:14,319
to see these uh uh videos and what have

1661
01:08:19,669 --> 01:08:17,120
you well let's go back to the story i

1662
01:08:22,070 --> 01:08:19,679
was telling you before about how

1663
01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:22,080
you know what the most important piece

1664
01:08:26,390 --> 01:08:24,400
to that whole story is the fact that

1665
01:08:29,510 --> 01:08:26,400
they were reading my mind they were

1666
01:08:30,950 --> 01:08:29,520
reading my soul they were reading my

1667
01:08:33,749 --> 01:08:30,960
destiny

1668
01:08:35,510 --> 01:08:33,759
so they had to intervene so i thought

1669
01:08:38,709 --> 01:08:35,520
that was very intriguing but anyhow you

1670
01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:38,719
had something to tell me um on the break

1671
01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:40,880
and i said no no don't tell me tell me

1672
01:08:44,309 --> 01:08:42,480
back live on air because i thought it'd

1673
01:08:46,390 --> 01:08:44,319
be kind of fun to to let the audience

1674
01:08:48,550 --> 01:08:46,400
hear it all too

1675
01:08:50,149 --> 01:08:48,560
well one thing that i've discovered

1676
01:08:52,470 --> 01:08:50,159
lorien

1677
01:08:54,309 --> 01:08:52,480
over the last especially the last few

1678
01:08:57,990 --> 01:08:54,319
months is that

1679
01:09:00,390 --> 01:08:58,000
when i really have have surrendered

1680
01:09:03,349 --> 01:09:00,400
myself to the universe

1681
01:09:04,149 --> 01:09:03,359
they won't let me make a wrong decision

1682
01:09:08,630 --> 01:09:04,159
and

1683
01:09:10,309 --> 01:09:08,640
i i liken this to your situation they

1684
01:09:11,990 --> 01:09:10,319
you know they let you go through your

1685
01:09:13,910 --> 01:09:12,000
little tantrum

1686
01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:13,920
saying well i'm not going to do this

1687
01:09:17,189 --> 01:09:15,600
anymore but

1688
01:09:23,910 --> 01:09:17,199
but

1689
01:09:25,510 --> 01:09:23,920
your spirit and it is so marvelous when

1690
01:09:27,910 --> 01:09:25,520
when you get to have an encounter and

1691
01:09:30,229 --> 01:09:27,920
i'm the same way it's like i'll kind of

1692
01:09:33,749 --> 01:09:30,239
you know i might get all

1693
01:09:36,390 --> 01:09:33,759
you know distracted with 3d stuff but

1694
01:09:38,870 --> 01:09:36,400
boy when then when the ships show up and

1695
01:09:41,349 --> 01:09:38,880
i'm going it's like going to the zoo for

1696
01:09:43,910 --> 01:09:41,359
the first time every time

1697
01:09:44,950 --> 01:09:43,920
it fills your spirit

1698
01:09:49,910 --> 01:09:44,960
and you

1699
01:09:52,229 --> 01:09:49,920
why am i really here i mean the big

1700
01:09:54,470 --> 01:09:52,239
picture we get kind of

1701
01:09:56,870 --> 01:09:54,480
wrapped up in all the

1702
01:09:58,550 --> 01:09:56,880
the challenges of just being a human

1703
01:09:59,750 --> 01:09:58,560
being and trying to survive in this

1704
01:10:03,030 --> 01:09:59,760
dimension

1705
01:10:04,630 --> 01:10:03,040
and i know that in your situation

1706
01:10:07,590 --> 01:10:04,640
they wanted

1707
01:10:09,189 --> 01:10:07,600
they just wanted you to know how much

1708
01:10:10,630 --> 01:10:09,199
they love you

1709
01:10:13,030 --> 01:10:10,640
and that

1710
01:10:14,470 --> 01:10:13,040
the magnitude of

1711
01:10:20,870 --> 01:10:14,480
the work

1712
01:10:22,070 --> 01:10:20,880
done all of us light workers we've all

1713
01:10:29,189 --> 01:10:22,080
been

1714
01:10:30,870 --> 01:10:29,199
a wild and wacky journey and it's not

1715
01:10:31,830 --> 01:10:30,880
been that easy

1716
01:10:33,830 --> 01:10:31,840
but

1717
01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:33,840
we're standing at the threshold of

1718
01:10:36,950 --> 01:10:36,000
something magnificent getting ready to

1719
01:10:39,030 --> 01:10:36,960
happen

1720
01:10:40,310 --> 01:10:39,040
and i thank you for

1721
01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:40,320
staying

1722
01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:44,400
report for duty

1723
01:10:47,990 --> 01:10:45,840
because this is

1724
01:10:50,790 --> 01:10:48,000
this is your mission

1725
01:10:56,470 --> 01:10:53,430
and we have to we have to step up to the

1726
01:10:57,350 --> 01:10:56,480
plate every every day

1727
01:11:00,229 --> 01:10:57,360
but

1728
01:11:02,390 --> 01:11:00,239
what we do need to do is learn to be in

1729
01:11:03,510 --> 01:11:02,400
the moment

1730
01:11:06,790 --> 01:11:03,520
and not

1731
01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:06,800
get to um i mean we can make our goals

1732
01:11:09,830 --> 01:11:09,040
and we can make our plans

1733
01:11:12,310 --> 01:11:09,840
but

1734
01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:12,320
if we can live in that moment you miss

1735
01:11:16,630 --> 01:11:13,679
the miracle

1736
01:11:19,189 --> 01:11:16,640
of the moment if you get too busy down

1737
01:11:20,390 --> 01:11:19,199
the road looking at all the other stuff

1738
01:11:22,630 --> 01:11:20,400
because

1739
01:11:24,830 --> 01:11:22,640
each and every moment

1740
01:11:26,870 --> 01:11:24,840
that we

1741
01:11:28,550 --> 01:11:26,880
experience in

1742
01:11:31,830 --> 01:11:28,560
this divine

1743
01:11:33,910 --> 01:11:31,840
light body that's mutating it's changing

1744
01:11:36,950 --> 01:11:33,920
we're going through all kinds of

1745
01:11:39,750 --> 01:11:36,960
things and our consciousness is changing

1746
01:11:41,350 --> 01:11:39,760
and this great planet is it's unfolding

1747
01:11:43,709 --> 01:11:41,360
for us and so

1748
01:11:46,149 --> 01:11:43,719
i think this conference is going to be

1749
01:11:48,229 --> 01:11:46,159
magnificent because

1750
01:11:51,030 --> 01:11:48,239
we're going to bring a whole new

1751
01:11:52,070 --> 01:11:51,040
paradigm of energy

1752
01:11:57,910 --> 01:11:52,080
to

1753
01:12:00,550 --> 01:11:57,920
we can celebrate we can celebrate this

1754
01:12:02,790 --> 01:12:00,560
remembering of who we are because that's

1755
01:12:07,270 --> 01:12:02,800
really what it's all about

1756
01:12:09,189 --> 01:12:07,280
yes we i agree with you we are becoming

1757
01:12:11,830 --> 01:12:09,199
yeah and it's not just you and me this

1758
01:12:13,110 --> 01:12:11,840
is everybody on this planet as a

1759
01:12:16,070 --> 01:12:13,120
collective

1760
01:12:19,110 --> 01:12:16,080
that sees something and hears things i

1761
01:12:22,310 --> 01:12:19,120
mean yeah it it but yeah there there's a

1762
01:12:25,189 --> 01:12:22,320
lot of people out there victoria that i

1763
01:12:27,510 --> 01:12:25,199
think and this is just my crazy wacky

1764
01:12:30,630 --> 01:12:27,520
opinion about this at this point

1765
01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:30,640
i think they're all being prepared to

1766
01:12:35,110 --> 01:12:32,800
hear us finally i think there's

1767
01:12:36,790 --> 01:12:35,120
something going on out there

1768
01:12:40,149 --> 01:12:36,800
that is making

1769
01:12:42,550 --> 01:12:40,159
people just so much more open

1770
01:12:43,830 --> 01:12:42,560
to you know aliens and what have you and

1771
01:12:46,229 --> 01:12:43,840
i'm going to give you another quick

1772
01:12:47,910 --> 01:12:46,239
story i tonight i had to go to staples

1773
01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:47,920
to get a new headset

1774
01:12:51,990 --> 01:12:51,120
for um the show tonight before going to

1775
01:12:53,910 --> 01:12:52,000
work

1776
01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:53,920
and i'm in there talking to this young

1777
01:12:58,709 --> 01:12:55,760
man his name is nathan

1778
01:13:00,790 --> 01:12:58,719
and he's a 3d modeler in the computer

1779
01:13:03,030 --> 01:13:00,800
industry on the side of course everybody

1780
01:13:05,350 --> 01:13:03,040
that works at staples has a side job if

1781
01:13:07,030 --> 01:13:05,360
everybody everybody should know they're

1782
01:13:08,709 --> 01:13:07,040
all artists and they're all computer

1783
01:13:10,390 --> 01:13:08,719
geeks and they only work at staples

1784
01:13:12,550 --> 01:13:10,400
because they have to they're kind of

1785
01:13:13,510 --> 01:13:12,560
like the ufo community

1786
01:13:17,590 --> 01:13:13,520
and

1787
01:13:20,149 --> 01:13:17,600
then he just started talking about

1788
01:13:21,750 --> 01:13:20,159
aliens like they were normal and i was

1789
01:13:24,709 --> 01:13:21,760
like oh wow

1790
01:13:27,350 --> 01:13:24,719
i'm looking at this 20 20 year old kid

1791
01:13:29,430 --> 01:13:27,360
and i realized in that moment

1792
01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:29,440
that to him they're just part of

1793
01:13:35,669 --> 01:13:33,120
everything that's going on around us

1794
01:13:37,910 --> 01:13:35,679
and he quoted me something from i can't

1795
01:13:38,950 --> 01:13:37,920
remember who it was from but he said it

1796
01:13:41,430 --> 01:13:38,960
was

1797
01:13:44,149 --> 01:13:41,440
basically that if we're alone in the

1798
01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:44,159
universe that's sad and if we're not

1799
01:13:48,709 --> 01:13:46,960
alone that's you know if we're not alone

1800
01:13:51,590 --> 01:13:48,719
it's it's

1801
01:13:53,430 --> 01:13:51,600
bad and if we're alone it's really bad

1802
01:13:55,350 --> 01:13:53,440
something to that effect

1803
01:13:56,630 --> 01:13:55,360
you know because you know i don't know

1804
01:13:58,310 --> 01:13:56,640
where he came up with that it's

1805
01:14:00,310 --> 01:13:58,320
something out of a science fiction book

1806
01:14:02,149 --> 01:14:00,320
but he just said it matter-of-factly

1807
01:14:04,149 --> 01:14:02,159
like yeah there's got to be aliens out

1808
01:14:07,030 --> 01:14:04,159
there i mean we were talking about him

1809
01:14:07,830 --> 01:14:07,040
doing some uh renderings of some aliens

1810
01:14:10,070 --> 01:14:07,840
for

1811
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:10,080
my friend douglas dietrich and he's like

1812
01:14:14,149 --> 01:14:11,920
oh yeah i can do that because i can even

1813
01:14:15,830 --> 01:14:14,159
imagine what they look like and he goes

1814
01:14:17,590 --> 01:14:15,840
i think that you know there's other

1815
01:14:19,510 --> 01:14:17,600
planets with life on it and there

1816
01:14:21,030 --> 01:14:19,520
they've there's got to be you know i'm

1817
01:14:22,870 --> 01:14:21,040
just like whoa

1818
01:14:24,950 --> 01:14:22,880
where did this all come from i mean this

1819
01:14:27,430 --> 01:14:24,960
is like a totally different paradigm

1820
01:14:30,390 --> 01:14:27,440
from like even 30 years ago

1821
01:14:33,189 --> 01:14:30,400
so oh it's so it's so wonderful

1822
01:14:35,350 --> 01:14:33,199
just being around

1823
01:14:37,830 --> 01:14:35,360
you know the generation the younger

1824
01:14:41,430 --> 01:14:37,840
generations they're they're such a

1825
01:14:42,950 --> 01:14:41,440
breath of fresh air because they're just

1826
01:14:48,470 --> 01:14:42,960
they're so

1827
01:14:49,750 --> 01:14:48,480
you mean we're all seated we're all

1828
01:14:52,149 --> 01:14:49,760
seated

1829
01:14:53,669 --> 01:14:52,159
some of us are first generation hybrid

1830
01:14:55,590 --> 01:14:53,679
some of us are

1831
01:14:57,430 --> 01:14:55,600
second third fourth

1832
01:15:01,910 --> 01:14:57,440
but um

1833
01:15:03,590 --> 01:15:01,920
you know we're all here to remember

1834
01:15:07,510 --> 01:15:03,600
why we're here

1835
01:15:09,669 --> 01:15:07,520
this grand experiment and so how lovely

1836
01:15:11,030 --> 01:15:09,679
for you to meet this young man and have

1837
01:15:11,910 --> 01:15:11,040
him just

1838
01:15:17,030 --> 01:15:11,920
just

1839
01:15:19,430 --> 01:15:17,040
share his light and his

1840
01:15:20,709 --> 01:15:19,440
his insight like you know it's no big

1841
01:15:21,669 --> 01:15:20,719
deal because

1842
01:15:25,030 --> 01:15:21,679
that's

1843
01:15:26,390 --> 01:15:25,040
we are moving into a galactic society

1844
01:15:28,550 --> 01:15:26,400
and that's

1845
01:15:30,470 --> 01:15:28,560
you know that's really that's really

1846
01:15:33,030 --> 01:15:30,480
what i'm that's what i'm going to

1847
01:15:34,870 --> 01:15:33,040
address at conferences

1848
01:15:38,070 --> 01:15:34,880
how we are you know

1849
01:15:40,709 --> 01:15:38,080
creating our galactic society

1850
01:15:43,430 --> 01:15:40,719
yes absolutely and

1851
01:15:45,510 --> 01:15:43,440
you know in a hundred years and

1852
01:15:46,630 --> 01:15:45,520
this takes me back to one of my very

1853
01:15:48,709 --> 01:15:46,640
first and

1854
01:15:50,470 --> 01:15:48,719
still one of my most favorite science

1855
01:15:53,430 --> 01:15:50,480
fiction books ever

1856
01:15:55,669 --> 01:15:53,440
arthur c clarke's childhoods and

1857
01:15:57,510 --> 01:15:55,679
where the spaceships park for a hundred

1858
01:16:00,070 --> 01:15:57,520
years over the cities and don't do

1859
01:16:01,750 --> 01:16:00,080
anything you know so they just become

1860
01:16:04,470 --> 01:16:01,760
the kids grow up with them there and

1861
01:16:06,149 --> 01:16:04,480
they're just part of everyday existence

1862
01:16:08,630 --> 01:16:06,159
and then they finally start showing

1863
01:16:10,229 --> 01:16:08,640
themselves a little bit here and there

1864
01:16:11,910 --> 01:16:10,239
and then that takes another hundred

1865
01:16:13,750 --> 01:16:11,920
years or whatever i can't remember the

1866
01:16:15,030 --> 01:16:13,760
whole story now but the bottom line to

1867
01:16:17,189 --> 01:16:15,040
all this is

1868
01:16:19,910 --> 01:16:17,199
the more we get it out there that you

1869
01:16:22,709 --> 01:16:19,920
know maybe even only 50 years from now

1870
01:16:24,470 --> 01:16:22,719
the et's themselves actually will start

1871
01:16:27,189 --> 01:16:24,480
showing themselves

1872
01:16:29,510 --> 01:16:27,199
on a more 3d reality

1873
01:16:32,229 --> 01:16:29,520
and they already have

1874
01:16:34,229 --> 01:16:32,239
well they have i think they're

1875
01:16:35,750 --> 01:16:34,239
it's

1876
01:16:38,070 --> 01:16:35,760
yeah do you really think that because

1877
01:16:40,550 --> 01:16:38,080
i've never seen one i know it

1878
01:16:41,350 --> 01:16:40,560
oh i know well

1879
01:16:43,030 --> 01:16:41,360
well

1880
01:16:45,430 --> 01:16:43,040
you know

1881
01:16:46,830 --> 01:16:45,440
i don't i feel

1882
01:16:50,390 --> 01:16:46,840
i don't feel

1883
01:16:52,229 --> 01:16:50,400
all here i mean they say you and if you

1884
01:16:54,149 --> 01:16:52,239
were all here you wouldn't be if you

1885
01:16:56,630 --> 01:16:54,159
were all there you wouldn't be here

1886
01:16:58,070 --> 01:16:56,640
but i've i've met

1887
01:17:01,030 --> 01:16:58,080
people

1888
01:17:02,550 --> 01:17:01,040
in peru that have come up to me i know

1889
01:17:05,669 --> 01:17:02,560
they were aliens

1890
01:17:08,630 --> 01:17:05,679
but they also recognized me because

1891
01:17:09,830 --> 01:17:08,640
i i do have a lot of

1892
01:17:12,470 --> 01:17:09,840
different

1893
01:17:13,669 --> 01:17:12,480
energies and so it's kind of like we had

1894
01:17:16,630 --> 01:17:13,679
this

1895
01:17:19,110 --> 01:17:16,640
we just clicked but i knew and they

1896
01:17:20,870 --> 01:17:19,120
they have a different um

1897
01:17:23,510 --> 01:17:20,880
different actions

1898
01:17:26,149 --> 01:17:23,520
i mean they're everywhere and

1899
01:17:29,750 --> 01:17:26,159
i mean you know major robert dean

1900
01:17:30,709 --> 01:17:29,760
he's oh i do glorious glorious friend

1901
01:17:37,590 --> 01:17:30,719
and

1902
01:17:42,070 --> 01:17:37,600
we when we visited he was when he met me

1903
01:17:47,110 --> 01:17:45,910
no i'm not and and but he would talk

1904
01:17:48,229 --> 01:17:47,120
about

1905
01:17:49,350 --> 01:17:48,239
you know

1906
01:17:54,070 --> 01:17:49,360
some of the

1907
01:17:57,590 --> 01:17:54,080
was doing his

1908
01:18:00,870 --> 01:17:57,600
his work in the 1960s and in shape and

1909
01:18:02,149 --> 01:18:00,880
that and i just think that um

1910
01:18:03,030 --> 01:18:02,159
really

1911
01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:03,040
uh

1912
01:18:08,550 --> 01:18:05,920
there's there's people that are just

1913
01:18:11,669 --> 01:18:08,560
they're mingling with us and so that

1914
01:18:13,830 --> 01:18:11,679
went back to your word about disclosure

1915
01:18:16,950 --> 01:18:13,840
i mean yeah we were kind of talking

1916
01:18:20,070 --> 01:18:16,960
about that on the break and

1917
01:18:21,110 --> 01:18:20,080
i just think well i it's already out i

1918
01:18:22,790 --> 01:18:21,120
mean there's

1919
01:18:24,950 --> 01:18:22,800
it's there's

1920
01:18:27,030 --> 01:18:24,960
there's nothing to disclose it's already

1921
01:18:27,910 --> 01:18:27,040
i mean it is we are not alone and

1922
01:18:33,110 --> 01:18:27,920
there's

1923
01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:33,120
found they found over 10 million planets

1924
01:18:37,990 --> 01:18:34,960
that could support life

1925
01:18:40,870 --> 01:18:38,000
there was a newspaper article on that

1926
01:18:42,149 --> 01:18:40,880
united press that was about a year and a

1927
01:18:43,110 --> 01:18:42,159
half ago

1928
01:18:45,750 --> 01:18:43,120
and

1929
01:18:48,630 --> 01:18:45,760
so it's like okay

1930
01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:48,640
let's just let's move on and not be a

1931
01:18:53,110 --> 01:18:51,840
broken record let's let's step one step

1932
01:18:55,910 --> 01:18:53,120
beyond

1933
01:18:57,669 --> 01:18:55,920
and let's start living up to the

1934
01:19:01,990 --> 01:18:57,679
potential

1935
01:19:03,189 --> 01:19:02,000
of our galactic heritage

1936
01:19:08,390 --> 01:19:03,199
i agree

1937
01:19:11,350 --> 01:19:08,400
close victoria i really do

1938
01:19:14,149 --> 01:19:11,360
it it seems to me that so many people

1939
01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:14,159
out there like this kid nathan today and

1940
01:19:19,350 --> 01:19:16,400
and uh even the

1941
01:19:22,390 --> 01:19:19,360
guy this is a funny story i'm renting

1942
01:19:23,590 --> 01:19:22,400
the veteran the legions hall for our

1943
01:19:26,229 --> 01:19:23,600
conference

1944
01:19:27,990 --> 01:19:26,239
and everywhere i tried i tried to

1945
01:19:29,990 --> 01:19:28,000
community centers i tried to get these

1946
01:19:31,510 --> 01:19:30,000
places and i'd say oh we're having a ufo

1947
01:19:34,149 --> 01:19:31,520
conference and they would be like oh

1948
01:19:35,910 --> 01:19:34,159
okay they weren't too enthusiastic about

1949
01:19:37,270 --> 01:19:35,920
it let's just put it that way they were

1950
01:19:38,149 --> 01:19:37,280
kind of like huh

1951
01:19:40,229 --> 01:19:38,159
like

1952
01:19:42,070 --> 01:19:40,239
what will this do for us and are you

1953
01:19:43,830 --> 01:19:42,080
guys all going to wear tin foil hats i

1954
01:19:46,070 --> 01:19:43,840
could hear them oh i was just going to

1955
01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:46,080
say tinfoil hat

1956
01:19:50,950 --> 01:19:48,000
yeah i was i could hear him thinking

1957
01:19:53,270 --> 01:19:50,960
this the minute i say it right

1958
01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:53,280
but yeah and they're and they're kind of

1959
01:19:56,470 --> 01:19:55,040
they're very difficult to deal with

1960
01:19:58,070 --> 01:19:56,480
after i tell them what kind of

1961
01:20:00,470 --> 01:19:58,080
conference i'm putting on it's just

1962
01:20:03,350 --> 01:20:00,480
extraordinary to me but i called this

1963
01:20:05,189 --> 01:20:03,360
one guy and i said to him i said please

1964
01:20:07,189 --> 01:20:05,199
don't judge me for

1965
01:20:09,669 --> 01:20:07,199
what i'm doing

1966
01:20:12,790 --> 01:20:09,679
i said i'm putting on a ufo conference

1967
01:20:15,910 --> 01:20:12,800
he goes i think that's cool and i was

1968
01:20:17,189 --> 01:20:15,920
like oh my god we found our home and i

1969
01:20:19,110 --> 01:20:17,199
didn't even care how much they were

1970
01:20:21,430 --> 01:20:19,120
charging or what they were doing i was

1971
01:20:22,630 --> 01:20:21,440
just like okay this is gonna be

1972
01:20:24,950 --> 01:20:22,640
wonderful

1973
01:20:27,189 --> 01:20:24,960
and they're a group of vets and they're

1974
01:20:29,590 --> 01:20:27,199
very sweet and uh you know they're kind

1975
01:20:32,470 --> 01:20:29,600
of older crowd because there's not a lot

1976
01:20:34,149 --> 01:20:32,480
of young vets joining these legion halls

1977
01:20:35,270 --> 01:20:34,159
and things like that which i was sorry

1978
01:20:37,030 --> 01:20:35,280
to hear

1979
01:20:39,110 --> 01:20:37,040
after talking to him about it for a

1980
01:20:42,390 --> 01:20:39,120
while one day but

1981
01:20:45,030 --> 01:20:42,400
anyhow very amazing group of people very

1982
01:20:46,950 --> 01:20:45,040
accommodating very sweet and you know i

1983
01:20:49,110 --> 01:20:46,960
wouldn't doubt if we actually had time

1984
01:20:51,590 --> 01:20:49,120
to go in and talk to them

1985
01:20:53,669 --> 01:20:51,600
before the event that a lot of them may

1986
01:20:55,430 --> 01:20:53,679
have seen things especially the ones

1987
01:20:58,149 --> 01:20:55,440
that were in nom and the ones that have

1988
01:20:59,110 --> 01:20:58,159
been over in the gulf absolutely for

1989
01:21:01,510 --> 01:20:59,120
sure

1990
01:21:02,790 --> 01:21:01,520
uh yeah and who knows they may have seen

1991
01:21:05,189 --> 01:21:02,800
more than just

1992
01:21:06,709 --> 01:21:05,199
aliens and spacecraft who knows what

1993
01:21:07,910 --> 01:21:06,719
they've seen you know

1994
01:21:10,550 --> 01:21:07,920
but uh

1995
01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:10,560
yeah i spoke to some senior citizens

1996
01:21:14,950 --> 01:21:13,600
here in in pagosa springs colorado they

1997
01:21:17,510 --> 01:21:14,960
had me come and

1998
01:21:19,350 --> 01:21:17,520
i had the biggest crowd at the senior

1999
01:21:21,669 --> 01:21:19,360
citizen center

2000
01:21:23,189 --> 01:21:21,679
than that that they've ever had oh my

2001
01:21:25,990 --> 01:21:23,199
god speaker

2002
01:21:27,830 --> 01:21:26,000
and it was all about the ships and all

2003
01:21:29,750 --> 01:21:27,840
of these people in their 80s said well

2004
01:21:31,910 --> 01:21:29,760
i've been seeing chips

2005
01:21:34,149 --> 01:21:31,920
all my life you know

2006
01:21:35,830 --> 01:21:34,159
and and so

2007
01:21:38,070 --> 01:21:35,840
you know but they didn't have anyone

2008
01:21:40,310 --> 01:21:38,080
they could speak to about it

2009
01:21:43,590 --> 01:21:40,320
they just kept it to themselves and so

2010
01:21:45,830 --> 01:21:43,600
they're so thrilled so i i mean we could

2011
01:21:46,950 --> 01:21:45,840
they could have a great time with those

2012
01:21:48,630 --> 01:21:46,960
folks

2013
01:21:51,270 --> 01:21:48,640
yeah and in here

2014
01:21:53,430 --> 01:21:51,280
you know it's the whole point of things

2015
01:21:55,590 --> 01:21:53,440
are changing you know i may had to make

2016
01:21:58,070 --> 01:21:55,600
15 phone calls before i got to the one

2017
01:22:00,310 --> 01:21:58,080
that thought it was a cool idea

2018
01:22:02,070 --> 01:22:00,320
and uh that's great but you know if it

2019
01:22:05,590 --> 01:22:02,080
was 30 years ago i probably would have

2020
01:22:10,229 --> 01:22:08,149
so who knows you know

2021
01:22:11,830 --> 01:22:10,239
it's just it's very intriguing to me to

2022
01:22:13,910 --> 01:22:11,840
see the changes that are happening and

2023
01:22:16,070 --> 01:22:13,920
they're happening rapidly it's not like

2024
01:22:19,350 --> 01:22:16,080
they you know they're taking a long time

2025
01:22:20,790 --> 01:22:19,360
to happen i was told when i was a lot

2026
01:22:22,470 --> 01:22:20,800
younger

2027
01:22:25,270 --> 01:22:22,480
and i think i mentioned this on the show

2028
01:22:27,990 --> 01:22:25,280
before as well the i was told by two

2029
01:22:30,870 --> 01:22:28,000
separate psychics that i would be 53

2030
01:22:33,510 --> 01:22:30,880
years old and i would be talking to

2031
01:22:35,350 --> 01:22:33,520
people and i would be speaking in front

2032
01:22:36,790 --> 01:22:35,360
of crowds of people

2033
01:22:44,950 --> 01:22:36,800
and i

2034
01:22:46,149 --> 01:22:44,960
know i really thought they were nuts

2035
01:22:49,110 --> 01:22:46,159
because

2036
01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:49,120
i had a very pretty bad speech

2037
01:22:53,189 --> 01:22:50,880
impediment when i was a child i still

2038
01:22:56,149 --> 01:22:53,199
have a little lisp

2039
01:22:57,669 --> 01:22:56,159
and i just never thought i was petrified

2040
01:23:00,149 --> 01:22:57,679
of getting in front of the room and

2041
01:23:03,430 --> 01:23:00,159
talking to anybody or doing anything

2042
01:23:05,669 --> 01:23:03,440
like that oh gosh until i was 40. i mean

2043
01:23:08,629 --> 01:23:05,679
it was like oh it's like pulling teeth

2044
01:23:11,030 --> 01:23:08,639
but at that point in time i made myself

2045
01:23:13,430 --> 01:23:11,040
become part of a

2046
01:23:15,830 --> 01:23:13,440
part of the group at the office where i

2047
01:23:18,390 --> 01:23:15,840
was working where we actually had to go

2048
01:23:19,990 --> 01:23:18,400
out and give presentations i made myself

2049
01:23:22,470 --> 01:23:20,000
do it just like everything else in my

2050
01:23:25,030 --> 01:23:22,480
life i finally that was one of my last

2051
01:23:26,629 --> 01:23:25,040
hurdles to cover as far as i know i can

2052
01:23:29,669 --> 01:23:26,639
do anything i want

2053
01:23:31,430 --> 01:23:29,679
and i did it and then things just

2054
01:23:33,750 --> 01:23:31,440
changed quite a bit for me i wasn't as

2055
01:23:35,110 --> 01:23:33,760
afraid to start my mufon group because i

2056
01:23:37,350 --> 01:23:35,120
have to talk in front of them every

2057
01:23:39,510 --> 01:23:37,360
month and you know just a lot of things

2058
01:23:41,430 --> 01:23:39,520
like that opened up for me but these

2059
01:23:43,030 --> 01:23:41,440
women had told me when you're 53 this is

2060
01:23:46,149 --> 01:23:43,040
all going to change for you and oh my

2061
01:23:48,470 --> 01:23:46,159
god and i'm like you guys are nuts and

2062
01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:48,480
low and behold i was 53 years old i

2063
01:23:52,709 --> 01:23:51,280
almost died came out of it decided this

2064
01:23:54,470 --> 01:23:52,719
is where i was heading this is the

2065
01:23:57,110 --> 01:23:54,480
direction i was going

2066
01:23:59,750 --> 01:23:57,120
and there you have it so i mean i'm

2067
01:24:01,750 --> 01:23:59,760
always amazed at how right on some of

2068
01:24:02,870 --> 01:24:01,760
these amazing psychics are out there

2069
01:24:05,110 --> 01:24:02,880
that can see

2070
01:24:06,709 --> 01:24:05,120
you know the future or the past or you

2071
01:24:08,229 --> 01:24:06,719
know what's going on right now it's

2072
01:24:11,430 --> 01:24:08,239
always amazed me

2073
01:24:13,910 --> 01:24:11,440
it's it's true and i and another thing

2074
01:24:17,350 --> 01:24:13,920
it takes a lot of courage

2075
01:24:19,990 --> 01:24:17,360
i know at least in my experience

2076
01:24:22,790 --> 01:24:20,000
when i started having

2077
01:24:24,070 --> 01:24:22,800
my encounters that i was capturing on

2078
01:24:27,510 --> 01:24:24,080
film

2079
01:24:30,070 --> 01:24:27,520
that was in 94 i was having encounters

2080
01:24:32,950 --> 01:24:30,080
before that but started filming them but

2081
01:24:35,110 --> 01:24:32,960
i had a lot of people that said

2082
01:24:37,590 --> 01:24:35,120
i just can't be your friend anymore

2083
01:24:40,709 --> 01:24:37,600
because you're just too out there and

2084
01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:40,719
but yet it takes it takes courage i mean

2085
01:24:45,189 --> 01:24:42,400
it takes courage to walk through the

2086
01:24:47,510 --> 01:24:45,199
valley of the bullet and now

2087
01:24:51,189 --> 01:24:47,520
for for what people thought was so

2088
01:24:54,310 --> 01:24:51,199
strange or off the wall or inconceivable

2089
01:24:55,270 --> 01:24:54,320
is everyday thought form and oh yeah you

2090
01:24:58,470 --> 01:24:55,280
know

2091
01:25:00,709 --> 01:24:58,480
uh contact and encounters and

2092
01:25:02,229 --> 01:25:00,719
and um and i had the near-death

2093
01:25:05,750 --> 01:25:02,239
experiences

2094
01:25:07,910 --> 01:25:05,760
as well in 1981 i went all the way

2095
01:25:10,310 --> 01:25:07,920
oh my god

2096
01:25:12,149 --> 01:25:10,320
tell us about that and i got a couple

2097
01:25:13,990 --> 01:25:12,159
minutes before the break we have a

2098
01:25:15,750 --> 01:25:14,000
couple minutes before the break but i'd

2099
01:25:18,790 --> 01:25:15,760
love to hear about what happened when

2100
01:25:20,149 --> 01:25:18,800
you went to the other side or anything

2101
01:25:23,910 --> 01:25:20,159
well

2102
01:25:25,110 --> 01:25:23,920
my heart tipped out i'd had surgery

2103
01:25:26,709 --> 01:25:25,120
and uh

2104
01:25:29,030 --> 01:25:26,719
the heart flipped out and all of a

2105
01:25:33,110 --> 01:25:29,040
sudden i was in darkness

2106
01:25:35,189 --> 01:25:33,120
and and i and i said oh god you know

2107
01:25:38,310 --> 01:25:35,199
i know i live in the light please take

2108
01:25:41,030 --> 01:25:38,320
me and i looked and i saw these people

2109
01:25:43,830 --> 01:25:41,040
going up into this light in these sort

2110
01:25:46,390 --> 01:25:43,840
of these themes of light colors of light

2111
01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:46,400
and i was taken into the light

2112
01:25:49,830 --> 01:25:47,440
and

2113
01:25:51,750 --> 01:25:49,840
when i came to a clearing there was a

2114
01:25:54,950 --> 01:25:51,760
man standing there

2115
01:25:57,350 --> 01:25:54,960
and people referred to him as you know

2116
01:25:59,590 --> 01:25:57,360
jesus or sananda i mean he was standing

2117
01:26:02,149 --> 01:25:59,600
there he took me by hand

2118
01:26:04,950 --> 01:26:02,159
and i'm not into organized religion you

2119
01:26:06,390 --> 01:26:04,960
know i'm very spiritual universally but

2120
01:26:08,629 --> 01:26:06,400
i'm not into one

2121
01:26:10,629 --> 01:26:08,639
thing or another but he is very he's

2122
01:26:13,430 --> 01:26:10,639
real he's very real

2123
01:26:15,669 --> 01:26:13,440
and he took me to this room

2124
01:26:17,830 --> 01:26:15,679
and i um there was a

2125
01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:17,840
there was no furniture

2126
01:26:22,149 --> 01:26:19,600
that there were people standing in the

2127
01:26:24,229 --> 01:26:22,159
circle that i did not know and they

2128
01:26:25,430 --> 01:26:24,239
invited me to stand in the circle with

2129
01:26:26,950 --> 01:26:25,440
him

2130
01:26:29,990 --> 01:26:26,960
and um

2131
01:26:33,590 --> 01:26:30,000
he was we were looking down like we were

2132
01:26:37,189 --> 01:26:33,600
looking at some kind of a projection

2133
01:26:40,550 --> 01:26:37,199
a movie projection um you could see the

2134
01:26:42,790 --> 01:26:40,560
earth and and he was showing us all the

2135
01:26:44,229 --> 01:26:42,800
earth changes that were coming

2136
01:26:45,270 --> 01:26:44,239
for the planet

2137
01:26:46,310 --> 01:26:45,280
and

2138
01:26:48,390 --> 01:26:46,320
um

2139
01:26:50,470 --> 01:26:48,400
and then he looked at me and he said you

2140
01:26:52,550 --> 01:26:50,480
have to go back

2141
01:26:56,310 --> 01:26:52,560
oh my god and

2142
01:26:59,030 --> 01:26:56,320
and so then i i mean it was really it

2143
01:27:01,750 --> 01:26:59,040
was really something and when you well

2144
01:27:03,750 --> 01:27:01,760
hey victoria let's talk about the rest

2145
01:27:06,390 --> 01:27:03,760
of that story when we come back we're

2146
01:27:08,470 --> 01:27:06,400
getting our last break everyone so all

2147
01:27:10,550 --> 01:27:08,480
right hang in there and any of you in

2148
01:27:11,830 --> 01:27:10,560
chat who have questions for victoria get

2149
01:27:13,910 --> 01:27:11,840
them in now because i'm going to be

2150
01:27:15,350 --> 01:27:13,920
doing them last half hour of the show so

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01:27:17,910 --> 01:27:15,360
hang in there with us folks we'll be

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01:27:22,310 --> 01:27:17,920
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v o y a g e r s

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dot com

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welcome back everyone to the california

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mufon radio show i'm your host lorian

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fenton and i'm so eagerly

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quickly getting through this because i

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01:32:29,430 --> 01:32:27,679
want to get victoria back on right away

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01:32:31,590 --> 01:32:29,440
to tell us more about her near-death

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experience and what came out of it all

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for her

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01:32:36,950 --> 01:32:34,719
and i know that what came out of mine

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01:32:39,189 --> 01:32:36,960
was it's life-changing and i want to

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hear the rest of what happened to her so

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last we were she was sitting there being

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told she had to go back

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what happened then victoria

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01:32:51,350 --> 01:32:50,080
okay so um i did i did come back in my

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body

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and

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uh one thing i've i've realized is once

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you've been

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to the other side you don't sweat the

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small stuff and

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it

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what i've been shown in numerous but i

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have a lot of visions

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and because

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01:33:17,189 --> 01:33:14,239
we were shown the earth changes

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but i continued to have experiences

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where i was shown the second earth i

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literally

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i've seen

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i saw our earth and i saw another earth

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merging

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and this

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this

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metamorphosis

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01:33:39,270 --> 01:33:38,080
you know blending

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happening

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and

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so it's

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as as well as my body

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became more eliminated with

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this electric

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light energy that would

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01:33:59,669 --> 01:33:56,480
my body became the conduit so in my

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healing practice i started doing more

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01:34:05,669 --> 01:34:01,760
of my healing work

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but um the clarity of being there and

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then being sent back it's like you have

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to go back and

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there's you know

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much bigger things for you to do

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and i have to mention that i had another

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near death

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oh wow two years ago

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where i was on the mountain i was

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actually driving to california

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and i was leaving colorado and i just

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had my car tuned up

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and got all the cars fine and i'm

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driving up this mountain highway

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and all of a sudden it's like there's an

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alien under the gas pedal

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and the gas pedal was totally stuck

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on high oh

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so the car is speeding

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like 75 miles an hour

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you know up and down this you know

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highway

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outside durango it's called mancus

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mountain and it's it's i mean sharp it's

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scary and

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i did not know what to do because there

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were a lot of people on the road it was

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easter weekend and i didn't want to

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01:35:18,629 --> 01:35:15,199
cause an accident and i i thought this

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is it i i mean it's over i'm done you

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know i've i've had i had my

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first near death and this is going to be

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it and i'd actually had dreams

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in the past about being on this road and

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being out of control like this and i

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thought well this is it

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and then there was one split second

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where i was able to steer the car off

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the one side of the road before the next

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corner

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which would have thrown me off the

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mountain

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and

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couldn't tell because it was

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01:35:59,590 --> 01:35:55,920
you know smoke everything but what had

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01:36:02,870 --> 01:35:59,600
happened is that the gas pedal throttle

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had been caught on a screw

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and held it in high

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and that that screw had been

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it was on the hose that was supposed to

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be toward

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the dashboard instead of poking out so

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when he did that

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01:36:22,390 --> 01:36:18,239
um

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01:36:24,310 --> 01:36:22,400
that car repair thing on he he caused it

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01:36:27,030 --> 01:36:24,320
and he would have just done it all over

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01:36:30,550 --> 01:36:27,040
again so there was you know there was

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01:36:34,870 --> 01:36:30,560
another second chance okay well

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01:36:37,830 --> 01:36:34,880
here we are so i think um i i call them

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01:36:39,590 --> 01:36:37,840
death dances we all go through a lot of

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01:36:40,470 --> 01:36:39,600
death dances

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and

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01:36:44,790 --> 01:36:42,960
a lot of people go through some serious

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01:36:46,950 --> 01:36:44,800
illnesses but they

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01:36:49,270 --> 01:36:46,960
they overcome it because

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01:36:50,470 --> 01:36:49,280
you know our human spirit

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01:36:52,550 --> 01:36:50,480
we have

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01:36:54,310 --> 01:36:52,560
a desire to live but we do have the

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01:36:55,350 --> 01:36:54,320
power to heal ourselves which is one

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01:36:58,310 --> 01:36:55,360
thing i

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01:37:00,629 --> 01:36:58,320
also do i'm it's not just a ufo thing

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01:37:02,709 --> 01:37:00,639
i've been in healing arts for

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01:37:06,629 --> 01:37:02,719
over 30 years and

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as a clinical hypnotherapist and a

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01:37:11,430 --> 01:37:08,960
i'm a healer and so

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01:37:13,270 --> 01:37:11,440
that's something that i can

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01:37:15,669 --> 01:37:13,280
um my

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01:37:18,950 --> 01:37:15,679
you know my contribution to humanity is

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01:37:20,870 --> 01:37:18,960
i'm just scared victoria

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01:37:22,870 --> 01:37:20,880
what is your focus when you do your

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01:37:25,590 --> 01:37:22,880
hypnotherapy do you help people that

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01:37:27,990 --> 01:37:25,600
have been abducted by aliens do you help

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01:37:31,270 --> 01:37:28,000
people who have war

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01:37:35,030 --> 01:37:31,280
issues with ptsd what do you do when you

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01:37:38,790 --> 01:37:35,040
do hypnotherapy how do you help them i

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01:37:42,229 --> 01:37:38,800
i pretty much have done all aspects

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01:37:46,709 --> 01:37:42,239
uh i don't do as many

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01:37:50,870 --> 01:37:46,719
objections i did years ago but

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01:37:52,550 --> 01:37:50,880
what i focus more on is helping people

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01:37:55,430 --> 01:37:52,560
access

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01:37:58,229 --> 01:37:55,440
just their divine potential to let go of

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01:38:00,790 --> 01:37:58,239
the baggage to let go of the trauma like

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01:38:02,629 --> 01:38:00,800
post-traumatic stress as you mentioned

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01:38:09,590 --> 01:38:02,639
um

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01:38:10,709 --> 01:38:09,600
i can do more of the abduction work but

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01:38:12,709 --> 01:38:10,719
i just

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01:38:14,310 --> 01:38:12,719
you know that's just not been where

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01:38:17,750 --> 01:38:14,320
there's been a lot of people that have

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01:38:19,669 --> 01:38:17,760
been abducted so and i don't really like

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01:38:22,310 --> 01:38:19,679
to do the abduction things over the

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01:38:24,709 --> 01:38:22,320
telephones that's something that you

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01:38:28,830 --> 01:38:24,719
know you have to do in person but

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01:38:31,990 --> 01:38:30,390
yeah

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01:38:37,590 --> 01:38:32,000
let go

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01:38:38,550 --> 01:38:37,600
and the behaviors and the beliefs

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01:38:41,189 --> 01:38:38,560
because

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01:38:44,390 --> 01:38:41,199
whatever we've been told

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01:38:46,390 --> 01:38:44,400
at some time in our life it's programmed

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01:38:48,310 --> 01:38:46,400
and then we you know that button

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01:38:51,109 --> 01:38:48,320
continues to be pushed

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01:38:53,030 --> 01:38:51,119
and then we go back into that mode

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01:38:56,229 --> 01:38:53,040
and we don't have to hold on to that

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01:38:58,950 --> 01:38:56,239
stuff and i also um

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01:39:02,229 --> 01:38:58,960
i i just work a lot with your

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01:39:04,629 --> 01:39:02,239
consciousness i help people connect with

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01:39:06,629 --> 01:39:04,639
the stars the star lineage that they

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01:39:08,629 --> 01:39:06,639
have a connection with

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01:39:11,189 --> 01:39:08,639
and i can do it over the phone or in

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01:39:13,189 --> 01:39:11,199
person i will be doing some of those at

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01:39:15,350 --> 01:39:13,199
the conference

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01:39:17,590 --> 01:39:15,360
if anyone's interested

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01:39:19,430 --> 01:39:17,600
great so now if they got a hold of you

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01:39:20,950 --> 01:39:19,440
before the conference now the conference

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01:39:23,430 --> 01:39:20,960
will be in

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01:39:24,790 --> 01:39:23,440
santa clara california that's right near

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01:39:26,629 --> 01:39:24,800
san jose

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01:39:30,229 --> 01:39:26,639
and um

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01:39:32,470 --> 01:39:30,239
it's going to be march 28th and 29th

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01:39:34,870 --> 01:39:32,480
and just so if they got a hold of you

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01:39:37,270 --> 01:39:34,880
ahead of time through your website and

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01:39:39,510 --> 01:39:37,280
called you they could set up a time to

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01:39:41,669 --> 01:39:39,520
actually meet with you in person

2431
01:39:43,590 --> 01:39:41,679
to have a session here in the san

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01:39:45,189 --> 01:39:43,600
francisco bay area or in northern

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01:39:46,629 --> 01:39:45,199
california or wherever they're from

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01:39:48,790 --> 01:39:46,639
right

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01:39:50,550 --> 01:39:48,800
exactly well i'm going to come a little

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01:39:52,229 --> 01:39:50,560
early

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01:39:54,870 --> 01:39:52,239
so i'll be

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01:39:57,030 --> 01:39:54,880
i'll be in the area a little bit before

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01:39:57,990 --> 01:39:57,040
the conference and after the conference

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01:40:00,470 --> 01:39:58,000
so

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01:40:04,550 --> 01:40:00,480
you know we'll just do whatever we can

2442
01:40:05,990 --> 01:40:04,560
do for people and they can contact me um

2443
01:40:06,830 --> 01:40:06,000
my website

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01:40:08,390 --> 01:40:06,840
is

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01:40:11,910 --> 01:40:08,400
victorieswhite.com

2446
01:40:13,910 --> 01:40:11,920
and now that's victoria's with an s is

2447
01:40:16,590 --> 01:40:13,920
that correct it's not victoria light

2448
01:40:18,790 --> 01:40:16,600
it's victoria's with an s correct

2449
01:40:19,790 --> 01:40:18,800
victoria's light

2450
01:40:22,470 --> 01:40:19,800
it's

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01:40:24,950 --> 01:40:22,480
victoriouslight.com and that name came

2452
01:40:28,390 --> 01:40:24,960
because my merkle boss started showing

2453
01:40:31,430 --> 01:40:28,400
up on film above my head in sacred sight

2454
01:40:34,470 --> 01:40:31,440
so jose yes kamiah you know jose don't

2455
01:40:36,390 --> 01:40:34,480
you yeah yeah discovered the rods well

2456
01:40:38,149 --> 01:40:36,400
that was his idea he says i think you

2457
01:40:39,270 --> 01:40:38,159
should call your website victoria's

2458
01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:39,280
light

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01:40:45,990 --> 01:40:43,600
so here it is 20 years later but um

2460
01:40:46,830 --> 01:40:46,000
that's funny because um

2461
01:40:51,350 --> 01:40:46,840
if i

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01:40:53,510 --> 01:40:51,360
what stephen bassett told me to call my

2463
01:40:56,950 --> 01:40:53,520
radio show you could be you'd be talking

2464
01:40:59,109 --> 01:40:56,960
to the california mufon radio of space

2465
01:41:03,669 --> 01:40:59,119
babe

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01:41:05,510 --> 01:41:03,679
that's what he wanted me to call it i'm

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01:41:08,629 --> 01:41:05,520
like i don't think so i don't think

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01:41:10,870 --> 01:41:08,639
mufon's gonna go for that stephen

2469
01:41:12,870 --> 01:41:10,880
anyhow it was very cute and he was very

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01:41:14,470 --> 01:41:12,880
funny when he when he came up with it

2471
01:41:15,750 --> 01:41:14,480
because there's actually two of us that

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01:41:17,990 --> 01:41:15,760
were gonna be on here actually there's

2473
01:41:20,790 --> 01:41:18,000
gonna be more than two at the time and

2474
01:41:22,790 --> 01:41:20,800
so i think he called us the space babes

2475
01:41:25,669 --> 01:41:22,800
is what he called this oh i like that

2476
01:41:26,550 --> 01:41:25,679
that's cute yeah it was funny so what do

2477
01:41:28,870 --> 01:41:26,560
you do

2478
01:41:30,790 --> 01:41:28,880
anyhow um i want to talk just a little

2479
01:41:33,910 --> 01:41:30,800
bit more we got some more time left here

2480
01:41:36,310 --> 01:41:33,920
i really want to dig a little deeper

2481
01:41:38,550 --> 01:41:36,320
into the whole merkaba thing now you're

2482
01:41:42,070 --> 01:41:38,560
saying that you people can see the

2483
01:41:44,390 --> 01:41:42,080
merkabah above your head or you can or

2484
01:41:47,750 --> 01:41:44,400
how does that work and could i see my

2485
01:41:54,470 --> 01:41:50,070
well uh what happened

2486
01:41:59,270 --> 01:41:57,669
i did some ceremonies up in sedona on

2487
01:42:00,629 --> 01:41:59,280
the mountain i'd been told i was

2488
01:42:03,830 --> 01:42:00,639
supposed to

2489
01:42:06,390 --> 01:42:03,840
from my telepathic transmissions and i

2490
01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:06,400
was supposed to go to sedona to do this

2491
01:42:12,629 --> 01:42:09,760
ceremony well during those photographs

2492
01:42:14,709 --> 01:42:12,639
or during the ceremony photographs were

2493
01:42:17,270 --> 01:42:14,719
taken of me and there's this

2494
01:42:19,590 --> 01:42:17,280
diamond-shaped window well it's not a

2495
01:42:20,390 --> 01:42:19,600
lens flare it's been studied

2496
01:42:22,950 --> 01:42:20,400
uh

2497
01:42:26,870 --> 01:42:22,960
jim dillatosa studied it clear back in

2498
01:42:28,950 --> 01:42:26,880
1994 and said it's not lens flare and

2499
01:42:31,830 --> 01:42:28,960
you know you can see

2500
01:42:33,109 --> 01:42:31,840
you can go on my website and you can see

2501
01:42:37,990 --> 01:42:33,119
some of these

2502
01:42:39,669 --> 01:42:38,000
but so this diamond-shaped window

2503
01:42:43,990 --> 01:42:39,679
started appearing

2504
01:42:45,270 --> 01:42:44,000
well that the same shape of the merkabah

2505
01:42:48,950 --> 01:42:45,280
that

2506
01:42:50,870 --> 01:42:48,960
surrounds us so as we continue to work

2507
01:42:52,709 --> 01:42:50,880
in our energy field

2508
01:42:55,830 --> 01:42:52,719
we have

2509
01:42:58,709 --> 01:42:55,840
this merkabah energy around us mine

2510
01:43:00,790 --> 01:42:58,719
started showing up above my head in

2511
01:43:04,070 --> 01:43:00,800
sacred sites sedona

2512
01:43:07,910 --> 01:43:04,080
in peru and mesquite in another ufo

2513
01:43:10,470 --> 01:43:07,920
conference and even a shaman spot above

2514
01:43:13,189 --> 01:43:10,480
my head in peru and he said

2515
01:43:14,950 --> 01:43:13,199
victoria you celestial you go to live on

2516
01:43:17,669 --> 01:43:14,960
another planet

2517
01:43:19,030 --> 01:43:17,679
and he sent me a postcard with this

2518
01:43:21,030 --> 01:43:19,040
diamond-shaped

2519
01:43:22,709 --> 01:43:21,040
thing on it in portuguese i couldn't

2520
01:43:25,109 --> 01:43:22,719
read the thing you know

2521
01:43:26,070 --> 01:43:25,119
but i saw the diamond

2522
01:43:28,870 --> 01:43:26,080
so

2523
01:43:30,470 --> 01:43:28,880
but what's happening now laureen is that

2524
01:43:33,990 --> 01:43:30,480
over the years

2525
01:43:36,950 --> 01:43:34,000
now it's not appearing above my head

2526
01:43:40,070 --> 01:43:36,960
but i'm inside it so on different

2527
01:43:41,990 --> 01:43:40,080
corners of the photograph you'll see

2528
01:43:44,950 --> 01:43:42,000
the blast of light

2529
01:43:46,470 --> 01:43:44,960
that's on on the corners so i'm it's

2530
01:43:50,830 --> 01:43:46,480
it's in

2531
01:43:53,750 --> 01:43:50,840
i mean i'm in that energy field well wow

2532
01:43:56,470 --> 01:43:53,760
individuals and i you know this is just

2533
01:43:58,149 --> 01:43:56,480
what i discovered with my journey but

2534
01:43:59,910 --> 01:43:58,159
each and every

2535
01:44:01,430 --> 01:43:59,920
uh person

2536
01:44:04,310 --> 01:44:01,440
has

2537
01:44:07,350 --> 01:44:04,320
their own merkabah vehicle it is a

2538
01:44:10,790 --> 01:44:07,360
divine violet light that is a

2539
01:44:12,870 --> 01:44:10,800
transporter to take you back and forth

2540
01:44:15,270 --> 01:44:12,880
between the dimensions

2541
01:44:19,510 --> 01:44:15,280
and there is a process

2542
01:44:21,750 --> 01:44:19,520
in your body as you um

2543
01:44:23,790 --> 01:44:21,760
you know tune in more meditate raise

2544
01:44:27,750 --> 01:44:23,800
your consciousness it's called

2545
01:44:29,910 --> 01:44:27,760
transverence and that is an energy field

2546
01:44:31,350 --> 01:44:29,920
that provides your body to be able to

2547
01:44:32,390 --> 01:44:31,360
withstand

2548
01:44:38,550 --> 01:44:32,400
the

2549
01:44:39,830 --> 01:44:38,560
so my first night i slept with moldavite

2550
01:44:41,830 --> 01:44:39,840
in my hand

2551
01:44:43,709 --> 01:44:41,840
you know what moldavite is i mean it's a

2552
01:44:47,030 --> 01:44:43,719
media fell over

2553
01:44:49,510 --> 01:44:47,040
czechoslovakia 35 million years ago and

2554
01:44:52,709 --> 01:44:49,520
and i slept with a piece of

2555
01:44:55,270 --> 01:44:52,719
moldavite in my hand and that night i'm

2556
01:44:57,910 --> 01:44:55,280
not kidding you a scout craft

2557
01:44:59,109 --> 01:44:57,920
landed in my parking lot and i went in

2558
01:45:02,229 --> 01:44:59,119
it

2559
01:45:03,830 --> 01:45:02,239
oh cool now so when you say a scout

2560
01:45:08,550 --> 01:45:03,840
craft are you talking about one that's

2561
01:45:10,709 --> 01:45:08,560
about like 15 to 20 feet wide or smaller

2562
01:45:13,750 --> 01:45:10,719
this one this was

2563
01:45:16,229 --> 01:45:13,760
this was just a very this was like more

2564
01:45:17,750 --> 01:45:16,239
of a merkabah more of a diamond shaped

2565
01:45:18,550 --> 01:45:17,760
scout craft

2566
01:45:21,030 --> 01:45:18,560
but

2567
01:45:21,990 --> 01:45:21,040
there are scout crafts that you know

2568
01:45:25,270 --> 01:45:22,000
they're

2569
01:45:27,270 --> 01:45:25,280
it's like when you're going through a

2570
01:45:29,189 --> 01:45:27,280
a parking garage

2571
01:45:31,189 --> 01:45:29,199
in in your sleep

2572
01:45:33,669 --> 01:45:31,199
and you see all these people driving

2573
01:45:36,950 --> 01:45:33,679
around and these they're they're small

2574
01:45:39,350 --> 01:45:36,960
they're small vehicles they just

2575
01:45:40,310 --> 01:45:39,360
you know i experience that at night when

2576
01:45:41,350 --> 01:45:40,320
i'm

2577
01:45:43,189 --> 01:45:41,360
going

2578
01:45:45,669 --> 01:45:43,199
on the ships or

2579
01:45:48,950 --> 01:45:45,679
going into these different areas where

2580
01:45:50,870 --> 01:45:48,960
we're congregating but the scout crafts

2581
01:45:54,870 --> 01:45:50,880
they're much smaller of course your

2582
01:45:57,189 --> 01:45:54,880
mothercrafts are hundreds of miles long

2583
01:45:59,189 --> 01:45:57,199
and which you'll see

2584
01:46:01,270 --> 01:45:59,199
you can see some of those on those

2585
01:46:02,709 --> 01:46:01,280
photographs in the in there

2586
01:46:04,950 --> 01:46:02,719
in the videos

2587
01:46:07,590 --> 01:46:04,960
but i'm kind of bouncing all over here

2588
01:46:09,430 --> 01:46:07,600
now but no no no that's cool i was like

2589
01:46:12,470 --> 01:46:09,440
that was excellent

2590
01:46:14,950 --> 01:46:12,480
wow i love those stories that it just it

2591
01:46:17,430 --> 01:46:14,960
parked in the dr in the parking lot at

2592
01:46:20,310 --> 01:46:17,440
your house

2593
01:46:22,950 --> 01:46:20,320
yeah yeah i mean i went into a craft

2594
01:46:24,070 --> 01:46:22,960
that night and then like when i was in

2595
01:46:25,750 --> 01:46:24,080
zion's

2596
01:46:28,229 --> 01:46:25,760
national park

2597
01:46:30,629 --> 01:46:28,239
i was out filming the ships

2598
01:46:33,910 --> 01:46:30,639
and this i mean there were just so many

2599
01:46:37,669 --> 01:46:33,920
ships and i'd film into the sky and i

2600
01:46:40,470 --> 01:46:37,679
would get holograms of of people

2601
01:46:41,910 --> 01:46:40,480
uh appearing on film in this other

2602
01:46:43,189 --> 01:46:41,920
dimension

2603
01:46:45,669 --> 01:46:43,199
in the sky

2604
01:46:47,350 --> 01:46:45,679
and it would show up on my film and then

2605
01:46:49,590 --> 01:46:47,360
behind me

2606
01:46:51,750 --> 01:46:49,600
i felt something so i turned around and

2607
01:46:54,870 --> 01:46:51,760
shot the camera in the dark and there

2608
01:46:57,350 --> 01:46:54,880
was a giant merkabah behind me

2609
01:46:58,950 --> 01:46:57,360
with all this football blue light

2610
01:47:00,070 --> 01:46:58,960
coming out of it

2611
01:47:03,030 --> 01:47:00,080
and uh

2612
01:47:04,790 --> 01:47:03,040
the the fun thing about my journey is

2613
01:47:07,350 --> 01:47:04,800
just that

2614
01:47:08,470 --> 01:47:07,360
i've captured it on film and seeing is

2615
01:47:10,310 --> 01:47:08,480
believing

2616
01:47:11,830 --> 01:47:10,320
you know it's one thing to hear somebody

2617
01:47:13,830 --> 01:47:11,840
say well you know i got this

2618
01:47:15,109 --> 01:47:13,840
transmission or this channeling or

2619
01:47:18,149 --> 01:47:15,119
whatever but

2620
01:47:21,030 --> 01:47:18,159
i've i've been fortunate because i've

2621
01:47:24,950 --> 01:47:21,040
i have received some amazing

2622
01:47:27,109 --> 01:47:24,960
phenomena on film numerous

2623
01:47:29,910 --> 01:47:27,119
orbs that were together

2624
01:47:32,629 --> 01:47:29,920
demonstrating the second earth how we

2625
01:47:35,109 --> 01:47:32,639
are moving into

2626
01:47:38,070 --> 01:47:35,119
a second earth energy

2627
01:47:40,550 --> 01:47:38,080
uh just a lot of messages and it's

2628
01:47:43,030 --> 01:47:40,560
through the process but i'm really

2629
01:47:44,629 --> 01:47:43,040
grateful that they've given me the

2630
01:47:47,189 --> 01:47:44,639
understanding

2631
01:47:48,950 --> 01:47:47,199
to look at this footage and and be able

2632
01:47:50,790 --> 01:47:48,960
to discern what

2633
01:47:53,590 --> 01:47:50,800
you know what does this mean and how

2634
01:47:55,590 --> 01:47:53,600
does it apply to us and so those are the

2635
01:47:57,189 --> 01:47:55,600
kinds of things that i like to share in

2636
01:47:58,470 --> 01:47:57,199
confidence

2637
01:48:00,709 --> 01:47:58,480
wow

2638
01:48:02,709 --> 01:48:00,719
then people can look at their own life

2639
01:48:05,430 --> 01:48:02,719
and say hey i've been getting mad on

2640
01:48:08,390 --> 01:48:05,440
film too so what does that mean you know

2641
01:48:10,070 --> 01:48:08,400
it's it's cool you know well let me ask

2642
01:48:12,149 --> 01:48:10,080
you something do you know who dorothy

2643
01:48:13,669 --> 01:48:12,159
isaac is

2644
01:48:16,790 --> 01:48:13,679
the lady out of

2645
01:48:19,430 --> 01:48:16,800
vancouver vancouver british columbia man

2646
01:48:20,470 --> 01:48:19,440
she said for years and she's got him on

2647
01:48:22,709 --> 01:48:20,480
film too

2648
01:48:26,070 --> 01:48:22,719
all of her ships have been showing up

2649
01:48:28,390 --> 01:48:26,080
and it's wild have you seen her stuff

2650
01:48:31,430 --> 01:48:28,400
i've seen her stuff and people have been

2651
01:48:33,590 --> 01:48:31,440
talking to us about each other for years

2652
01:48:34,790 --> 01:48:33,600
but we've never had the pleasure to meet

2653
01:48:38,070 --> 01:48:34,800
in person

2654
01:48:40,629 --> 01:48:38,080
oh you know it's a funny

2655
01:48:43,350 --> 01:48:40,639
yeah it's it's really um

2656
01:48:45,990 --> 01:48:43,360
funny that you said that because

2657
01:48:47,990 --> 01:48:46,000
i know the guy who did all the research

2658
01:48:51,030 --> 01:48:48,000
on her and has all the pictures and

2659
01:48:53,990 --> 01:48:51,040
everything and he's down in la

2660
01:48:55,990 --> 01:48:54,000
and i contacted him right after she was

2661
01:48:57,510 --> 01:48:56,000
on coast he was on coast to coast

2662
01:48:58,950 --> 01:48:57,520
talking about her for the very first

2663
01:49:02,070 --> 01:48:58,960
time back in

2664
01:49:02,870 --> 01:49:02,080
almost been 2000 or 99 or something like

2665
01:49:04,629 --> 01:49:02,880
that

2666
01:49:07,430 --> 01:49:04,639
and um

2667
01:49:09,590 --> 01:49:07,440
basically he said lorian she doesn't

2668
01:49:10,709 --> 01:49:09,600
ever want to meet with anybody but i'll

2669
01:49:13,030 --> 01:49:10,719
ask her

2670
01:49:16,070 --> 01:49:13,040
and he talked to her and she said yeah

2671
01:49:17,750 --> 01:49:16,080
come on up so i was like okay

2672
01:49:19,830 --> 01:49:17,760
i never could make it up there i thought

2673
01:49:21,910 --> 01:49:19,840
i was going up to see an aunt i have an

2674
01:49:24,470 --> 01:49:21,920
old an aunt in this and right in her

2675
01:49:27,270 --> 01:49:24,480
neighborhood as a matter of fact

2676
01:49:29,750 --> 01:49:27,280
and uh i never made it up there so that

2677
01:49:31,350 --> 01:49:29,760
didn't work out but i'd be happy to get

2678
01:49:33,350 --> 01:49:31,360
a hold of him again and then we can go

2679
01:49:36,229 --> 01:49:33,360
on a road trip sometime how's that sound

2680
01:49:38,070 --> 01:49:36,239
hey i would i would love that and you

2681
01:49:40,709 --> 01:49:38,080
know there are uh

2682
01:49:43,510 --> 01:49:40,719
a lot of individuals around the planet

2683
01:49:45,830 --> 01:49:43,520
that are having i mean

2684
01:49:48,550 --> 01:49:45,840
so many people are having experiences

2685
01:49:50,950 --> 01:49:48,560
and i love it because people will write

2686
01:49:53,350 --> 01:49:50,960
me an email and say you know i just have

2687
01:49:55,830 --> 01:49:53,360
a feeling that i need to talk to you

2688
01:49:58,149 --> 01:49:55,840
because we have a lot in common and so

2689
01:50:01,510 --> 01:49:58,159
i'll call australia and we'll spend two

2690
01:50:02,310 --> 01:50:01,520
hours on the phone and it's amazing

2691
01:50:06,709 --> 01:50:02,320
how

2692
01:50:09,109 --> 01:50:06,719
our experiences

2693
01:50:10,390 --> 01:50:09,119
are and here we're

2694
01:50:12,870 --> 01:50:10,400
you know we're just

2695
01:50:15,590 --> 01:50:12,880
we're all finding each other that's the

2696
01:50:17,990 --> 01:50:15,600
glorious thing that's what's so

2697
01:50:20,310 --> 01:50:18,000
enriching about coming to to these

2698
01:50:22,550 --> 01:50:20,320
gatherings these conferences because

2699
01:50:24,709 --> 01:50:22,560
well it's not just that you know it's

2700
01:50:27,669 --> 01:50:24,719
the the whole thing the whole art bell

2701
01:50:31,510 --> 01:50:27,679
phenomena has changed everything yes

2702
01:50:34,310 --> 01:50:31,520
and the x-files i say those are the two

2703
01:50:36,149 --> 01:50:34,320
social changers one was done through

2704
01:50:39,350 --> 01:50:36,159
television and one was done through

2705
01:50:41,669 --> 01:50:39,360
radio and they both really opened up

2706
01:50:42,550 --> 01:50:41,679
people's eyes to what's going on out

2707
01:50:46,870 --> 01:50:42,560
there

2708
01:50:49,910 --> 01:50:46,880
and uh they they really were a social um

2709
01:50:51,510 --> 01:50:49,920
you know a new paradigm for all of us to

2710
01:50:53,030 --> 01:50:51,520
be able to find each other and it being

2711
01:50:56,229 --> 01:50:53,040
okay

2712
01:50:58,870 --> 01:50:56,239
it's it's wonderful i i went on art bill

2713
01:51:01,430 --> 01:50:58,880
uh in on 11 11

2714
01:51:03,189 --> 01:51:01,440
2007.

2715
01:51:05,430 --> 01:51:03,199
and uh

2716
01:51:07,590 --> 01:51:05,440
and you know i was

2717
01:51:09,750 --> 01:51:07,600
a long time ago i have

2718
01:51:13,030 --> 01:51:09,760
i just you know haven't really gone on

2719
01:51:14,790 --> 01:51:13,040
there again since but they have shown

2720
01:51:18,310 --> 01:51:14,800
some of my like that

2721
01:51:20,709 --> 01:51:18,320
june 16th and 17th footage i think they

2722
01:51:22,550 --> 01:51:20,719
put it up on their post because it was

2723
01:51:23,910 --> 01:51:22,560
so exciting even though they didn't

2724
01:51:26,149 --> 01:51:23,920
interview me

2725
01:51:27,350 --> 01:51:26,159
but it is the media

2726
01:51:28,149 --> 01:51:27,360
the work

2727
01:51:30,950 --> 01:51:28,159
uh

2728
01:51:34,550 --> 01:51:30,960
god bless the souls of all the

2729
01:51:38,550 --> 01:51:34,560
dedicated white workers that have

2730
01:51:41,830 --> 01:51:38,560
i just thank them for their service and

2731
01:51:44,070 --> 01:51:41,840
and uh you know it's it's a grand the

2732
01:51:46,229 --> 01:51:44,080
grand celebration

2733
01:51:47,350 --> 01:51:46,239
it is are you ready to kick this thing

2734
01:51:50,310 --> 01:51:47,360
in the

2735
01:51:54,629 --> 01:51:52,390
now you were saying to me on the break

2736
01:51:56,550 --> 01:51:54,639
that something about in the next 18

2737
01:51:59,350 --> 01:51:56,560
months i got a lot of work ahead of me

2738
01:52:01,109 --> 01:51:59,360
is that is that what i was hearing

2739
01:52:03,589 --> 01:52:01,119
oh well

2740
01:52:06,310 --> 01:52:03,599
you know i had um

2741
01:52:08,950 --> 01:52:06,320
i had an astrologer she's a wonderful

2742
01:52:10,390 --> 01:52:08,960
astrologer she writes for the atlanta's

2743
01:52:13,510 --> 01:52:10,400
rising

2744
01:52:15,109 --> 01:52:13,520
school she she's fabulous and she lives

2745
01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:15,119
here in pagosa

2746
01:52:18,310 --> 01:52:17,360
she did a reading with me and she was

2747
01:52:20,870 --> 01:52:18,320
saying

2748
01:52:24,629 --> 01:52:20,880
this is not just you victoria but it's

2749
01:52:28,950 --> 01:52:24,639
all of us she said the next 18 months is

2750
01:52:31,830 --> 01:52:28,960
the most powerful time of our entire

2751
01:52:33,030 --> 01:52:31,840
life really

2752
01:52:34,790 --> 01:52:33,040
yeah cool

2753
01:52:36,629 --> 01:52:34,800
so does that mean i get a break when

2754
01:52:39,669 --> 01:52:36,639
it's over

2755
01:52:40,470 --> 01:52:39,679
i think or and you probably get a raise

2756
01:52:42,550 --> 01:52:40,480
and

2757
01:52:46,070 --> 01:52:42,560
you know

2758
01:52:48,629 --> 01:52:46,080
been i've been putting this out to the

2759
01:52:52,550 --> 01:52:48,639
universe and it's something i very badly

2760
01:52:57,030 --> 01:52:52,560
want to do i want to um have a community

2761
01:52:59,910 --> 01:52:57,040
um up in the colfax area of off of i-80

2762
01:53:02,229 --> 01:52:59,920
in northern california and if i can't

2763
01:53:04,709 --> 01:53:02,239
have it there my next best place is

2764
01:53:06,550 --> 01:53:04,719
petaluma california is actually where i

2765
01:53:09,109 --> 01:53:06,560
really want to have it

2766
01:53:11,189 --> 01:53:09,119
yeah and um i'm putting it out there to

2767
01:53:14,310 --> 01:53:11,199
the universe that when it's time to you

2768
01:53:17,430 --> 01:53:14,320
know kick the bucket on the whole ufo

2769
01:53:20,390 --> 01:53:17,440
thing that i can have my community there

2770
01:53:22,470 --> 01:53:20,400
of all like-minded people and you know

2771
01:53:24,790 --> 01:53:22,480
who i really want to help out what i

2772
01:53:27,109 --> 01:53:24,800
want to do is not i love the vets don't

2773
01:53:29,589 --> 01:53:27,119
get me wrong and i i could help them to

2774
01:53:33,189 --> 01:53:29,599
you know every day of my life for doing

2775
01:53:35,109 --> 01:53:33,199
what they do but i need to start helping

2776
01:53:38,709 --> 01:53:35,119
the older people that have been in the

2777
01:53:41,030 --> 01:53:38,719
ufo or conspiracy or patriot communities

2778
01:53:42,950 --> 01:53:41,040
or what have you whistleblowers whatever

2779
01:53:44,709 --> 01:53:42,960
who have nowhere to go and no money

2780
01:53:47,030 --> 01:53:44,719
because most of these people are just

2781
01:53:48,470 --> 01:53:47,040
thrown out like trash or killed

2782
01:53:50,629 --> 01:53:48,480
and um

2783
01:53:53,669 --> 01:53:50,639
i'm trying to do what i can to give

2784
01:53:55,430 --> 01:53:53,679
people like jordan maxwell a home

2785
01:53:57,750 --> 01:53:55,440
you know um

2786
01:53:59,109 --> 01:53:57,760
yeah i mean there's just so many of them

2787
01:54:00,709 --> 01:53:59,119
and they're they're brilliant and

2788
01:54:04,390 --> 01:54:00,719
they're amazing people and they've had

2789
01:54:06,070 --> 01:54:04,400
contact and they're literally if people

2790
01:54:07,669 --> 01:54:06,080
only knew what kind of horrors these

2791
01:54:10,070 --> 01:54:07,679
people have to do to just survive

2792
01:54:12,390 --> 01:54:10,080
day-to-day they only knew well you know

2793
01:54:15,270 --> 01:54:12,400
because because they're in the service

2794
01:54:17,430 --> 01:54:15,280
of humanity it's not about money i mean

2795
01:54:19,350 --> 01:54:17,440
people will say to me oh well how much

2796
01:54:21,430 --> 01:54:19,360
do they pay you for all the tv shows

2797
01:54:25,189 --> 01:54:21,440
you've been on victoria and radio shows

2798
01:54:27,510 --> 01:54:25,199
and i go nothing you know it's a service

2799
01:54:28,470 --> 01:54:27,520
we're we're in the service of humanity

2800
01:54:31,430 --> 01:54:28,480
and so

2801
01:54:33,510 --> 01:54:31,440
i think that's a fabulous idea and i

2802
01:54:35,350 --> 01:54:33,520
have a friend that lives in petaluma and

2803
01:54:37,830 --> 01:54:35,360
he's been begging me to

2804
01:54:39,510 --> 01:54:37,840
to go over there so i'd love to go check

2805
01:54:42,470 --> 01:54:39,520
oh yeah you gotta come up here when we

2806
01:54:43,510 --> 01:54:42,480
do the conference that'd be fun

2807
01:54:46,229 --> 01:54:43,520
yeah

2808
01:54:48,149 --> 01:54:46,239
okay folks well victoria it has been a

2809
01:54:49,830 --> 01:54:48,159
real pleasure having you on i want to

2810
01:54:53,750 --> 01:54:49,840
thank you so much for doing it and

2811
01:54:56,310 --> 01:54:53,760
she'll be at ufo con 2015 march 28th and

2812
01:54:58,310 --> 01:54:56,320
29th you can catch all of her

2813
01:55:00,910 --> 01:54:58,320
interesting videos and all kinds of

2814
01:55:03,270 --> 01:55:00,920
things at her website

2815
01:55:04,950 --> 01:55:03,280
victoriaslight.com and also make an

2816
01:55:07,430 --> 01:55:04,960
appointment with her get together with

2817
01:55:09,189 --> 01:55:07,440
her when she's here in the bay area if

2818
01:55:11,669 --> 01:55:09,199
you're in northern california if you're

2819
01:55:14,229 --> 01:55:11,679
in oregon coming down for the conference

2820
01:55:15,990 --> 01:55:14,239
if you're from timbuktu i don't know

2821
01:55:18,709 --> 01:55:16,000
care where you're from but get a hold of

2822
01:55:20,229 --> 01:55:18,719
her and get to know her better and have

2823
01:55:22,550 --> 01:55:20,239
her do some work with you i think it'd

2824
01:55:24,470 --> 01:55:22,560
be wonderful for all of you so that's it

2825
01:55:26,470 --> 01:55:24,480
for the show tonight folks thank you for

2826
01:55:28,709 --> 01:55:26,480
coming along on the ride and we'll see